Search for a new Cornell head football coach

[Ken711]

With Kent Austin resigning to accept the GM/Head Coach roles with the Hamilton Tiger Cats, the search for a new head coach begins.  Look for UVA Offensive Coordinator and Cornell grad Bill Lazor be one of those targeted.

[TimV]

And he'd stay 3-4 years and move on like Hohfer and others.  I'm getting tired of Cornell Football's habitual Rent-A-Coach approach.

Cornell had a chance to get Al Bagnoli, Penn's current 21 year, 8 outright Ivy Title coach when he was still a highly successful coach at Division 3 Union.  Why not try the same approach?  Maybe Larry Kehres from Mount Union - record of 317-24-3 and ten national championships in a no-scholarship division.

Maybe Jim Gagliardi from St. John's, Minnesota.  He's an assistant for his father, who is retiring after about 6o years there, 4 national championships and 6 runners-up.  He's apparently unhappy about the University conductiong a search for their next coach in  spite of his strong support from the football alumni.

I'm sure there are others.

[billhoward]

Football has been one of the few major sports where Cornell hasn't found a head coach who's leading Cornell into the upper reaches of the Ivy League. Hockey, women's hockey, lacrosse, wrestling are all outstanding. Now soccer. I do like the idea of an outstanding D3 coach. Of course, it's easier to figure in hindsight which was the right D3 coach.

Cornell went 11-19 in Kent Austin's 3 years. What would it have been without Jeff Matthews?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Football has been one of the few major sports where Cornell hasn't found a head coach who's leading Cornell into the upper reaches of the Ivy League. Hockey, women's hockey, lacrosse, wrestling are all outstanding. Now soccer. I do like the idea of an outstanding D3 coach. Of course, it's easier to figure in hindsight which was the right D3 coach.

Cornell went 11-19 in Kent Austin's 3 years. What would it have been without Jeff Matthews?

Even uglier.

[Trotsky]

We should give them a pass on Austin as far as the coaching carousel goes.  It was obvious he wasn't going to be permanent, and Cornell was fine with that because they were hemorrhaging.

They aren't now.  They're a weak program, but not ludicrously so, and they can afford to run the kind of search people have suggested: find the guy who believes in establishing a program and staying forever.  That's a different personality than the ultra ambitious coaches who want to keep testing themselves by winning at a higher level.

I would think somebody who went to Cornell, or at least an Ivy, and understands and believes in the Ivy mission, would be preferable.

[Ken711]

Another early name in addition to Bill Lazor under consideration is former UNC Offensive Coordinator John Shoop  I agree, a successful D3 or even D2 coach should also be in consideration if warranted.

[ugarte]

And he'd stay 3-4 years and move on like Hohfer and others.  I'm getting tired of Cornell Football's habitual Rent-A-Coach approach.

Cornell had a chance to get Al Bagnoli, Penn's current 21 year, 8 outright Ivy Title coach when he was still a highly successful coach at Division 3 Union.  Why not try the same approach?  Maybe Larry Kehres from Mount Union - record of 317-24-3 and ten national championships in a no-scholarship division.

Maybe Jim Gagliardi from St. John's, Minnesota.  He's an assistant for his father, who is retiring after about 6o years there, 4 national championships and 6 runners-up.  He's apparently unhappy about the University conductiong a search for their next coach in  spite of his strong support from the football alumni.

I'm sure there are others.

While the general sentiment is a good one, you might want to consider people who haven't planted roots someplace as your target. I'd be STUNNED if Gagliardi hasn't gotten better offers than Cornell in the past and you don't build a program around a post-retirement guy just whiling away the golden years. The Mount Union guy also clearly likes his small pond because he's a goddamn whale in that pond.

[TimV]

And he'd stay 3-4 years and move on like Hohfer and others.  I'm getting tired of Cornell Football's habitual Rent-A-Coach approach.

Cornell had a chance to get Al Bagnoli, Penn's current 21 year, 8 outright Ivy Title coach when he was still a highly successful coach at Division 3 Union.  Why not try the same approach?  Maybe Larry Kehres from Mount Union - record of 317-24-3 and ten national championships in a no-scholarship division.

Maybe Jim Gagliardi from St. John's, Minnesota.  He's an assistant for his father, who is retiring after about 6o years there, 4 national championships and 6 runners-up.  He's apparently unhappy about the University conductiong a search for their next coach in  spite of his strong support from the football alumni.

I'm sure there are others.

While the general sentiment is a good one, you might want to consider people who haven't planted roots someplace as your target. I'd be STUNNED if Gagliardi hasn't gotten better offers than Cornell in the past and you don't build a program around a post-retirement guy just whiling away the golden years. The Mount Union guy also clearly likes his small pond because he's a goddamn whale in that pond.

Wrong Gagliardi.  The son, not the retired guy - we tried that before with Bob Blackman.  Just want a guy who's been very successful at a school with academic chops and no scholarships.  And a guy from Minnesota probably wouldn't find Ithaca too bad.

[jtn27]

I would think somebody who went to Cornell, or at least an Ivy, and understands and believes in the Ivy mission, would be preferable.

Are there any current assistants at the other Ivies who might deserve a shot at a head coaching job?

[css228]

I would think somebody who went to Cornell, or at least an Ivy, and understands and believes in the Ivy mission, would be preferable.

Are there any current assistants at the other Ivies who might deserve a shot at a head coaching job?

Ya know, its not like Brown doesn't have a history of fairly sucessful football coaches coming out of their program.

[ugarte]

And he'd stay 3-4 years and move on like Hohfer and others.  I'm getting tired of Cornell Football's habitual Rent-A-Coach approach.

Cornell had a chance to get Al Bagnoli, Penn's current 21 year, 8 outright Ivy Title coach when he was still a highly successful coach at Division 3 Union.  Why not try the same approach?  Maybe Larry Kehres from Mount Union - record of 317-24-3 and ten national championships in a no-scholarship division.

Maybe Jim Gagliardi from St. John's, Minnesota.  He's an assistant for his father, who is retiring after about 6o years there, 4 national championships and 6 runners-up.  He's apparently unhappy about the University conductiong a search for their next coach in  spite of his strong support from the football alumni.

I'm sure there are others.

While the general sentiment is a good one, you might want to consider people who haven't planted roots someplace as your target. I'd be STUNNED if Gagliardi hasn't gotten better offers than Cornell in the past and you don't build a program around a post-retirement guy just whiling away the golden years. The Mount Union guy also clearly likes his small pond because he's a goddamn whale in that pond.

Wrong Gagliardi.  The son, not the retired guy - we tried that before with Bob Blackman.  Just want a guy who's been very successful at a school with academic chops and no scholarships.  And a guy from Minnesota probably wouldn't find Ithaca too bad.

Whoops. My bad. I skimmed. I'd take a guy who studied at the knee of Gagliardi pere.

[Ken711]

Word is that John Shoop interviewed on Tuesday.

[Al DeFlorio]

Word is that John Shoop interviewed on Tuesday.

http://chapelboro.com/The-Shoop-Scoop-by-John-Shoop/14110131

[Ken711]

Word is that John Shoop interviewed on Tuesday.

http://chapelboro.com/The-Shoop-Scoop-by-John-Shoop/14110131

My concern with a young coach like Shoop is, would he commit long-term to building a championship program at Cornell, or would get frustrated/discouraged and want to return to coaching at a higher level which his prior experience was based on.

[Al DeFlorio]

Word is that John Shoop interviewed on Tuesday.

http://chapelboro.com/The-Shoop-Scoop-by-John-Shoop/14110131

My concern with a young coach like Shoop is, would he commit long-term to building a championship program at Cornell, or would get frustrated/discouraged and want to return to coaching at a higher level which his prior experience was based on.

Agree.  And will he be able to adjust to Ivy recruiting and financial aid restrictions.

I'm with Tim...a successful D-3 coach or an experienced Ivy assistant.