2012-13 Polls Men & Women

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I think they lost their top goalie recruit to the juniors this year

This happened twice in recent years, but not this year. Jared Rutledge was their main recruit that they touted as their likely starter, but Steve Racine has delivered both better results and better numbers. A lot of Michigan fans and coaching staff saw the writing on the wall regarding Rutledge's overrating when Michigan lost its season-opening game to RIT at Yost.

[Jim Hyla]

USA Men's up. We're 13.

[Trotsky]

In any case, Saturday's game is going to be huge for both teams.

Winning would put Cornell in a weird position, pairwise-wise.  The NC results will buoy then while the conference result will hurt them.  The opposite of prior years.

[Jim Hyla]

In any case, Saturday's game is going to be huge for both teams.

Winning would put Cornell in a weird position, pairwise-wise.  The NC results will buoy then while the conference result will hurt them.  The opposite of prior years.

Winning solves everything.:-)At least with the conference we have a chance to recoup ourselves. The losses in conf aren't as critical as out of conf, where you can't as easily make up for your mistakes, no?

[Jim Hyla]

USA Women's now up.

[gomestar]

USCHO has us up one to 12.

Michigan drops off and Yale debuts at 15.

[Trotsky]

#12 in USA Hockey as well.

[Jim Hyla]

OK, OK so I had to see a patient in the hospital and didn't get it posted right away. Here's what's up so far.

Women drop to third. USA Women's out tomorrow.

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 26, 2012
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Boston College (49) 10- 1-0 999 1
2 New Hampshire ( 1) 9- 1-2 936 3
3 Minnesota 9- 2-2 880 4
4 Miami        7- 2-3 794 5
5 Denver        9- 3-0 786 2
6 Notre Dame 9- 4-0 737 6
7 North Dakota 6- 4-2 696 7
8 Union        8- 2-1 687 8
9 Boston University 7- 4-0 565 10
10 Western Michigan 6- 3-1 532 9
11 Dartmouth 5- 2-2 448 11
12 Cornell        4- 3-2 371 13
13 Nebraska-Omaha 8- 3-1 366 15
14 St. Cloud State 7- 5-0 347 12
15 Yale        5- 2-1 291 NR
16 Quinnipiac 8- 3-2 226 18
17 Ferris State 6- 4-2 205 16
18 Colorado College 7- 6-1 194 14
19 Harvard        4- 3-0 193 17
20 Niagara        8- 2-3 134 20

Others receiving votes: Providence 23, Michigan 22, Alaska 19, St. Lawrence 18,
Holy Cross 15, Northern Michigan 4, Ohio State 4, Massachusetts 3,
Minnesota State 2, Northeastern 2, Massachusetts-Lowell 1.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2DNIOSNig



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USA Men's Poll - Week 8: November 26, 2012
  Team       Points (First)  2012-13  Last  
1   Boston College 509 (33)      10-1-0   1
2   New Hampshire 473 (1)        9-1-2   3
3   Minnesota 427            9-2-2   4  
4   Miami        379            7-2-3   5  
5   Denver        361            9-3-0   2
6   Notre Dame 325            9-4-0   6
7   Union College 314            8-2-1   8
8   North Dakota 267            6-4-2   7
9   Boston Univer   223            7-4-0  10
10 Western Michigan193            6-3-1   9
11   Dartmouth 157            5-2-2  11
12 Cornell        115            4-3-2  13
13 Yale         87            5-2-1  NR
14 Nebraska-Omaha 79            8-3-1  14
15 St. Cloud State 54            7-5-0  12

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac University, 40; Harvard University, 33;
Colorado College, 13; Ferris State University, 12; Niagara University, 12;
St. Lawrence University, 4; Providence College, 2; University of Michigan, 1.  


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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 26, 2012
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 16- 0-0 150 1
2 Clarkson 12- 2-0 121 3
3 Cornell         9- 2-0 108 2
4 Mercyhurst 12- 1-1 96 4
5 Boston College 8- 3-2 90 5
6 Harvard         6- 1-0 76 7
7 Boston University 9- 3-1 75 6
8 North Dakota 9- 5-0 34 10
9 Northeastern 8- 3-2 32 9
10 Wisconsin 10- 4-2 29 NR
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 12, Providence 1, St. Lawrence 1.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2DNL9ZUXz



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USA Women's Poll - Week 10: Nov. 27, 2012
  Team   Points (First)  2012-13  Last  
1   Minnesota   190 (19)     16-0-0  1  
2   Clarkson    164          12-2-0  3
3   Cornell    142           9-2-0  2
4   Mercyhurst  124          12-1-1  4  
5   Harvard    113           6-1-0  7
6   Boston Coll 101           8-3-2  6
7   Boston Univ  90           9-3-1  5
8   North Dakota 42           9-5-0 10
9   Northeastern 39           8-3-2  9
10 Ohio State   22          11-5-0  8

Others receiving votes: Wisconsin, 18.  


[Jim Hyla]

Women third in USA poll as well.

[Jim Hyla]

USCHO has UHN taking over first, I don't know that I agree, and we're 11.

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   USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 03, 2012
Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 New Hampshire (31) 11- 1-2 977 2
2 Boston College (19) 11- 2-0 965 1
3 Miami         9- 2-3 883 4
4 Minnesota 10- 3-2 806 3
5 Notre Dame 11- 4-0 791 6
6 Denver         9- 4-1 674 5
7 Boston University 8- 5-0 644 9
7 Western Michigan 8- 3-1 644 10
9 North Dakota 7- 5-2 636 7
10 Dartmouth 6- 2-2 459 11
11 Cornell         6- 3-2 453 12
12 Union         8- 3-2 433 8
13 Quinnipiac 10- 3-2 418 16
14 Nebraska-Omaha 9- 4-1 411 13
15 Yale         6- 2-1 316 15
16 Ferris State 7- 4-3 254 17
17 St. Cloud State 8- 6-0 224 14
18 Niagara        10- 2-3 155 20
19 Colorado College 8- 7-1 145 18
20 Harvard         4- 3-0 123 19
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 59, Providence 15, Alaska 5, Michigan 3,
Minnesota State 2, St. Lawrence 2, Colgate 1, Holy Cross 1, Massachusetts 1.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2E2MxVTsD

USA agrees with UHN and we're 13.

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Men's Poll - Week 9: December 3, 2012
  Team   Points (First)  2012-13  Last Poll  
1  New Hampshire    496 (24)     11-1-2   2
2  Boston College   487 (10)     11-2-0   1
3  Miami    432           9-2-3   4
4  Notre Dame    390          11-4-0   6
5  Minnesota    365          10-3-2   3
6  Denver    283           9-4-1   5
7  Boston University268           8-5-0   9
8  Western Michigan 258           8-3-1  10
9  North Dakota    233           7-5-2   8
10 Dartmouth    173           6-2-2  11
11 Quinnipiac    146          10-3-2  NR
12 Union College    140           8-3-2   7
13 Cornell    129           6-3-2  12
14 Nebraska-Omaha   117           9-4-1  14
15 Yale            106           6-2-1  13
Others receiving votes: Ferris State University, 30;
St. Cloud State University, 10, Niagara University, 9,
Colorado College, 4; Harvard University, 3; Ohio State University, 1.  

USCHO have our Women at 3.

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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 03, 2012
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 18- 0-0 150 1
2 Clarkson 13- 3-0 110 2
3 Cornell        10- 3-0 105 3
4 Mercyhurst 14- 1-1 97 4
5 Harvard         8- 1-0 93 6
6 Boston College 10- 3-2 90 5
7 Boston University 11- 3-1 76 7
8 North Dakota 11- 5-0 47 8
9 Wisconsin 10- 6-2 27 10
10 Northeastern 9- 5-2 18 9
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 12.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2E2QhBj5G



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USA Women's Poll - Week 11: Dec. 4, 2012
    Team    Points(First)  Record  Last  
1 Minnesota   190 (19)     18-0-0  1  
2 Clarkson    147          13-3-0  2  
3 Cornell     144          10-3-0  3  
4 Harvard     134           8-1-0  5
5 Mercyhurst  118          14-1-1  4
6 Boston Coll  99          10-3-2  6  
7 Boston Univ  94          11-3-1  7
8 North Dakota 59          11-5-0  8  
9 Wisconsin    25          10-6-2 NR
10Northeastern 20           8-3-2  9
Others receiving votes: Ohio State, 14; New Hampshire, 1.  

I'll start Pairwise, as bad as it is this time of year. After-all I have to have something from CHN.
After holiday tourneys it's probably a lot better. Pairwise that is, I'm not sure about CHN.:-D

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Men from CHN

Rk Team       PCWs W-L-T Win % Rk RPI Rk
1 Boston College 25 11-2-0 .846 2 .6463 1
2 New Hampshire 24 11-1-2 .857 1 .6315 2
3 Dartmouth 23 6-2-2 .700 10 .6023 3
4 Yale        22 6-2-1 .722 8 .5940 4
5 Boston Univer 21 8-5-0 .615 15t .5750 5
6 Notre Dame 20 11-4-0 .733 5t .5734 6
7 Miami        19 9-2-3 .750 4 .5728 7
8 Quinnipiac 18 10-3-2 .733 5t .5707 8
9 Western Mich 17 8-3-1 .708 9 .5696 9
10 Denver        16 9-4-1 .679 12t .5600 10
11 Cornell        15 6-3-2 .636 14 .5582 11
12 Union        14 8-3-2 .692 11 .5547 12
13 North Dakota 13 7-5-2 .571 19t .5531 13
14 Harvard        12 4-3-0 .571 19t .5491 14
15 Minnesota 11 10-3-2 .733 5t .5474 15
16 Niagara         9 10-2-3 .767 3 .5430 16
17 Nebraska-Omaha 9 9-4-1 .679 12t .5329 17
18 Ohio State 8 7-4-3 .607 17t .5320 18
19 St. Cloud State 7 8-6-0 .571 19t .5283 19
20 Colorado College 6 8-7-1 .531 27 .5272 20
21 St. Lawrence 5 7-5-2 .571 19t .5261 21
22 Ferris State 4 7-4-3 .607 17t .5207 22
23 Massachusetts 3 5-6-2 .462 32t .5195 23
24 Colgate         3 7-7-2 .500 28t .5184 24
25 Minnesota State 1 7-5-2 .571 19t .5134 25
26 Providence 0 7-6-1 .536 26 .5039 26


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Women from USCHO
Rank Team        PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank vs. TUC TUC %
1 Minnesota 11 18-0-0 1.000 1t .6814 1 8-0-0 1.000
2 Harvard        10 8-1-0 .8889 4 .6421 2 2-1-0 .6667
3t Cornell         8 10-3-0 .7692 6 .6187 3 4-3-0 .5714
3t Clarkson 8 13-3-0 .8125 5 .6135 4 5-2-0 .7143
3t Boston Univer    8 11-3-1 .7667 7 .6132 5 3-2-1 .5833
6 Mercyhurst 6 14-1-1 .9062 3 .6086 6 1-1-0 .5000
7 Boston College 5 10-3-2 .7333 8 .6004 7 1-1-2 .5000
8 North Dakota 4 11-5-0 .6875 10 .5833 8 2-4-0 .3333
9 Ohio State 3 12-5-1 .6944 9 .5649 9 2-4-0 .3333
10 Dartmouth 2 4-3-2 .5556 16 .5412 10 0-2-1 .1667
11 Wisconsin 1 10-6-2 .6111 13 .5358 11 1-3-0 .2500
12 St. Lawrence 0 8-7-1 .5312 17 .5333 12 0-6-0 .0000

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz2E2SrheZj



[css228]

USCHO has UHN taking over first, I don't know that I agree, and we're 11.

Can we just call them the University of No Hardware instead? It keeps the letters in order and cuts deeper.

[snert1288]

I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15.  It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom.  After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

[Trotsky]

I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15.  It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom.  After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

It is quite rare.  There have been times when there has been a bubble of ECAC in the 9-16 slots, but it has always shaken out by March, leaving us with at most three representatives.

If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous.  The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

[Scersk '97]

If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous.  The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

Of course, we'll see what shakes out after the holiday tournies, but, well, there are five ECAC teams in the top 15 (there will be one AHA representative) of KRACH too...

So maybe, just maybe, the ECAC is strong* this year?  I, for one, would welcome a legitimate return to "big 4" status.

* (Or the other leagues are unusually and coherently weak.)

[ursusminor]

I find it interesting that both polls have ECAC teams ranked 10-13 and Yale at 15.  It seems rare to me to have 5 ECAC teams in the top 15 (then again I did only graduate in 2011), but they are all sitting there at the bottom.  After holiday tournaments everyone should have a better feeling who is really contending and maybe one or two ECAC teams can rise a bit higher.

It is quite rare.  There have been times when there has been a bubble of ECAC in the 9-16 slots, but it has always shaken out by March, leaving us with at most three representatives.

If the NCAA tournament started today, by PWR the ECAC would have 6 teams in. That's... ridiculous.  The prior ten seasons have yielded a total of 22 appearances (Cornell 6, Harvard 4, Yale 3, everybody else 9), with the most in any field being 3 (2005, 2009, 2011).

If, and it is a big if, the ECAC continues to perform well out of conference, they will get more than three representatives. Six is very unlikely since the league will beat each other in conference. That's what has typical happened to the WCHA when they have had even more than six projected as in the tourney at this time of year.