ECAC Finals Weekend not on TV

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css228

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Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?
I'll gladly take credit for most of the insanity. Vladivostok 2014! IF we're going to be irrelevant we might as well be epic and irrelevant!

ugarte

Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

Like I said, I know nothing about the conversions process. I just know that it can be done. I'll take your word for it that it wouldn't work well.
The most basic thing that you need is to have designed the arena to be convertible and multi-purpose from the start. You can't take any place that hosts hoops and turn it into a hockey rink or vice versa. Your assumption that it "should be feasible" is based on nothing but a handful of wishes.

nshapiro

I just wanted to mention that Boardwalk Hall in AC is possibly the most beautiful building in which I have ever watched a sporting event, and I encourage everyone to get there at least once to appreciate the building - and I am not an architect.  

As a Philly area resident, I think that Philadelphia is a wonderful host for a variety of events - National Championships for Curling and Table Tennis were great successes - and I think it would be a COMPLETE FAILURE for the ECACs.  No novelty factor and no local interest.  It would be less significant than World Team Tennis, semi-pro football, or local High School swimming.  Trenton has an ECHL team in an 8500 seat arena and it would be a better choice - commuter train ride from NYC and Philly...although it has the same geographical issue as Philly and AC.
When Section D was the place to be

Beeeej

Quote from: nshapiroI just wanted to mention that Boardwalk Hall in AC is possibly the most beautiful building in which I have ever watched a sporting event, and I encourage everyone to get there at least once to appreciate the building - and I am not an architect.

I'll agree with that.  And I think the ice problems last year were related to the weather, not the facilities - which unfortunately means we're likely to see more of the same this year, but so be it.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: nshapiroI just wanted to mention that Boardwalk Hall in AC is possibly the most beautiful building in which I have ever watched a sporting event, and I encourage everyone to get there at least once to appreciate the building - and I am not an architect.

I'll agree with that.  And I think the ice problems last year were related to the weather, not the facilities - which unfortunately means we're likely to see more of the same this year, but so be it.

I'd argue this one, Beeeej. If you're going to play hockey in March you need to be able to handle temps that are up. The facility can be made to accomodate the weather. Not that you need to plan on Florida temps, but should handle 70s.

Weather Channel for AC:

Fri 69/54 30%
Sat 59/46 20%
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jtn27

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Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

Like I said, I know nothing about the conversions process. I just know that it can be done. I'll take your word for it that it wouldn't work well.
The most basic thing that you need is to have designed the arena to be convertible and multi-purpose from the start. You can't take any place that hosts hoops and turn it into a hockey rink or vice versa. Your assumption that it "should be feasible" is based on nothing but a handful of wishes.

Ok, that brings me back to my original question: are there any arenas in NYC other than MSG and the Barclays that are equipped to host a hockey game? (And this time I would appreciate it if no one responded with a picture of Rockefeller Center. It was funny the first time, it won't be the second time).
Class of 2013

Rita

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

Like I said, I know nothing about the conversions process. I just know that it can be done. I'll take your word for it that it wouldn't work well.
The most basic thing that you need is to have designed the arena to be convertible and multi-purpose from the start. You can't take any place that hosts hoops and turn it into a hockey rink or vice versa. Your assumption that it "should be feasible" is based on nothing but a handful of wishes.

Ok, that brings me back to my original question: are there any arenas in NYC other than MSG and the Barclays that are equipped to host a hockey game? (And this time I would appreciate it if no one responded with a picture of Rockefeller Center. It was funny the first time, it won't be the second time).

Is Bridgeport considered a suburb of NYC?

jtn27

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Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

Like I said, I know nothing about the conversions process. I just know that it can be done. I'll take your word for it that it wouldn't work well.
The most basic thing that you need is to have designed the arena to be convertible and multi-purpose from the start. You can't take any place that hosts hoops and turn it into a hockey rink or vice versa. Your assumption that it "should be feasible" is based on nothing but a handful of wishes.

Ok, that brings me back to my original question: are there any arenas in NYC other than MSG and the Barclays that are equipped to host a hockey game? (And this time I would appreciate it if no one responded with a picture of Rockefeller Center. It was funny the first time, it won't be the second time).

Is Bridgeport considered a suburb of NYC?

Yes, in the same way Uniondale is. But the whole reason I think NYC is ideal is that NYC is a destination the way Bridgeport and Uniondale are not.
Class of 2013

BMac



Sky rink at Chelsea piers!

From their website:

"Sky Rink, the only year-round indoor ice skating facility in New York City, is available for TV segments, photo shoots, events on and off the ice, or anything else you envision."

SOUNDS GREAT!!!

"Sky Rink features two ice skating rinks, one of which includes seating for 800 people..."

D'oh!

marty

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Quote from: css228Yes it should, which is why I propose the tourney be held in Vladivostok. Time to live up to our rep folks.
That would be an awesome trip. I can just imagine the puzzled Russian security folks at the airport when a load of Cornell fans arrive.
I was going to respond to you in Russian, but the forum doesn't allow posting with Cyrillic alphabets.


"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

KeithK

You beat me to it, BMac.

I think the answer is probably that there are a number of rinks in NYC where one can play hockey but not so much "arenas" with reasonable seating capacity.

Side note: Chelsea Piers was the site on the worst zamboni-ing that I have ever seen (a dozen years ago).  The guy seemed to drive in random arcs across the ice surface in no discernible pattern. It was like "Oh look, there's a rough patch of ice!  Better drive over to it!".

jtwcornell91

Quote from: KeithKYou beat me to it, BMac.

I think the answer is probably that there are a number of rinks in NYC where one can play hockey but not so much "arenas" with reasonable seating capacity.

Side note: Chelsea Piers was the site on the worst zamboni-ing that I have ever seen (a dozen years ago).  The guy seemed to drive in random arcs across the ice surface in no discernible pattern. It was like "Oh look, there's a rough patch of ice!  Better drive over to it!".

Chelsea Piers, site of many Columbia-Penn hockey games.

Roy 82

Quote from: css228
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)
In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?
I'll gladly take credit for most of the insanity. Vladivostok 2014! IF we're going to be irrelevant we might as well be epic and irrelevant!

You want epic and irrelevant then vote for Newt!  

Tranquility Base 2016!

billhoward

Quote from: nshapiroI just wanted to mention that Boardwalk Hall in AC is possibly the most beautiful building in which I have ever watched a sporting event, and I encourage everyone to get there at least once to appreciate the building - and I am not an architect. As a Philly area resident, I think that Philadelphia is a wonderful host for a variety of events - National Championships for Curling and Table Tennis were great successes - and I think it would be a COMPLETE FAILURE for the ECACs.  No novelty factor and no local interest.  It would be less significant than World Team Tennis, semi-pro football, or local High School swimming.  Trenton has an ECHL team in an 8500 seat arena and it would be a better choice - commuter train ride from NYC and Philly...although it has the same geographical issue as Philly and AC.
Newark has muggers and mass transit and it's closer than Trenton.

dbilmes

Quote from: adamwI don't think it's accurate to say Quinnipiac has no fan base.  It had the 6th highest attendance in the league, probably 5th if you take out the Fenway game in Harvard's column. More than Union, St. Lawrence and Clarkson, among others.  They have been known to fill their building - and the year they did make it to Albany, brought a sizable contingent -- certainly moreso than just about any other school in the ECAC.
Quinnipiac does fill its building, but I was at two Q home games this year that were listed as sellouts, with hundreds of fans disguised as empty seats. I suppose the tickets had been sold, but it didn't mean the building was filled!