ECAC Finals Weekend not on TV

[ajh258]

We can lose RPI. They haven't been producing within or outside the league on a consistent basis for more than a decade now, and Quinnipiac has really outperformed RPI in the past few years consistently. Still, I would really like to see changes in recruitment rules and season start times for the Ivy League - I think those are the biggest issues barring us from getting better players and performance.

Seriously!?

Yeah, we surely want to lose one of the three programs that has any fans in this league, and one of the three with any national championships.   Also, RPI meshes well academically.  Or...OR! we could drop a program that took 20 years to win a playoff series. DUMP UNION. Jebus.

RPI really needs to step up its game. It has a good fan base and history, but the quality of hockey has been sucking a lot lately. I'm impartial to losing Union because it looks like they've been able to get their stuff together in recent years. I think RIT will experience similar growing pains coming up to the ECAC because the competition is just on a completely different level.

In any case, if Quinnipiac is leaving, then the obvious choice is to invite RIT. I don't think we have a say where Union is going/staying anyways.

[scoop85]

We can lose RPI. They haven't been producing within or outside the league on a consistent basis for more than a decade now, and Quinnipiac has really outperformed RPI in the past few years consistently. Still, I would really like to see changes in recruitment rules and season start times for the Ivy League - I think those are the biggest issues barring us from getting better players and performance.

Seriously!?

Yeah, we surely want to lose one of the three programs that has any fans in this league, and one of the three with any national championships.   Also, RPI meshes well academically.  Or...OR! we could drop a program that took 20 years to win a playoff series. DUMP UNION. Jebus.

RPI really needs to step up its game. It has a good fan base and history, but the quality of hockey has been sucking a lot lately. I'm impartial to losing Union because it looks like they've been able to get their stuff together in recent years. I think RIT will experience similar growing pains coming up to the ECAC because the competition is just on a completely different level.

In any case, if Quinnipiac is leaving, then the obvious choice is to invite RIT. I don't think we have a say where Union is going/staying anyways.

Uh, they were in the NCAA's just LAST YEAR.  I'll restrain myself from saying more.

[RichH]

RPI really needs to step up its game. It has a good fan base and history, but the quality of hockey has been sucking a lot lately.

First: Their quality of hockey is so bad that they took 3/4 points from Cornell this season. Second: In order to find the last time RPI finished in the top half of the league, you have to go WAYYYY back to 2011.  Oh, and 2010, too.  Horrible.  Kick them out, and force them to move to Montgomery so Alabama-Huntsville has a team to play.  Care to guess how many times Brown has finished above 11th place in the past eight seasons?

In any case, if Quinnipiac is leaving, then the obvious choice is to invite RIT. I don't think we have a say where Union is going/staying anyways.

Who ever said they were leaving?  Besides some guy on a message board who suggested the league dump them for another school?  Trust me, having been chosen by the ECAC just seven years ago over several other schools who wanted in, Quinnipiac is QUITE happy to be in the ECAC.

So all this thread has accomplished is we've decided to move the ECAC tournament to Atlanta and change to a relegation league.  Wonderful. I'm done.

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[jtn27]

RPI really needs to step up its game. It has a good fan base and history, but the quality of hockey has been sucking a lot lately.

First: Their quality of hockey is so bad that they took 3/4 points from Cornell this season. Second: In order to find the last time RPI finished in the top half of the league, you have to go WAYYYY back to 2011.  Oh, and 2010, too.  Horrible.  Kick them out, and force them to move to Montgomery so Alabama-Huntsville has a team to play.  Care to guess how many times Brown has finished above 11th place in the past eight seasons?

In any case, if Quinnipiac is leaving, then the obvious choice is to invite RIT. I don't think we have a say where Union is going/staying anyways.

Who ever said they were leaving?  Besides some guy on a message board who suggested the league dump them for another school?  Trust me, having been chosen by the ECAC just seven years ago over several other schools who wanted in, Quinnipiac is QUITE happy to be in the ECAC.

So all this thread has accomplished is we've decided to move the ECAC tournament to Atlanta and change to a relegation league.  Wonderful. I'm done.

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Hmmm..... a relegation league? Now that could work. The ECAC should look into implementing that.

[Johnny 5]

Yes it should, which is why I propose the tourney be held in Vladivostok. Time to live up to our rep folks.

That would be an awesome trip. I can just imagine the puzzled Russian security folks at the airport when a load of Cornell fans arrive.

I was going to respond to you in Russian, but the forum doesn't allow posting with Cyrillic alphabets.

Could we all stay with Gotovet's relatives??

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[css228]

It's more that if I wanted RIT in the league, they're the ones I wouldn't want. And I want RIT in the league. They have a Frozen 4 more recently than our league and quite frankly their fan base is pretty strong, not to mention Rochester would automatically be one of the biggest markets in ECAC Hockey. I just feel that Q-Pac doesn't add anything to our league other than a 3/4 empty stadium and another team of bodies. They have no real historical basis in the league, no real rivalries, They've made it to AC once I think (or did that not happen?). I mean I'd gladly drop Brown before them, or jump to Hockey East ourselves, but neither of those are going to happen. The two teams that have expressed interest in HE are Q-Pac and RPI. Which would you rather lose? That's what I thought. Q-Pac is the worst team we can drop without destroying the historical integrity or tradition of the league. And they have absolutely no fan base. RIT on the other hand sold out the Blue Cross Arena (a 10,000 person arena) for a game against SLU. Admittedly it was homecoming, but SLU isn't exactly a big name draw. Besides you get RIT and then we probably get Rochester, and the BCA. So in other words, problem solved on ECAC tourney location.
Basically short summary, I don't hate Q-Pac. I just can't see us growing to 14 (especially with the 29 game limit), and would rather lose Q-Pac than RPI among the realistic choices.

Oh my god, Oh My God, OMG. Just read through my history of posts here, and I've been advocating dropping UNION for RIT for years here.  Just because Union happens to be decent for the first time in ever, right this second is no reason to ignore what a drag they are in the league.  They are an awful program. The (former) university president (Hull) basically said that the best they should expect was to be a .500 team in the league, and that would be dandy. They are a DIII school with a DIII mentality, and a piss poor arena (akin to a high school gymnasium), with immature fans, and get them the hell out of the ECAC.  Quinnipiac at least built a modern rink as a centerpiece to their new campus. QU is essentially moving from being a commuter school to one that is building a campus with a med school as well as a law school.

In summary, leave Quinnipiac alone for now. They are doing some right things.  UNION SUCKS. Get them the hell out of our league in exchange straight up for RIT.  I'd do that in a heartbeat.  I will continue to push this.  I just sucks that they happen to be a good team right now.  I guarantee they will fall back to the dregs soon enough.

I'd be fine with Union for RIT too. I just don't think there's a realistic shot of them leaving.

[css228]

Yes it should, which is why I propose the tourney be held in Vladivostok. Time to live up to our rep folks.

That would be an awesome trip. I can just imagine the puzzled Russian security folks at the airport when a load of Cornell fans arrive.

I was going to respond to you in Russian, but the forum doesn't allow posting with Cyrillic alphabets.

Could we all stay with Gotovet's relatives??

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Only about 11 time zones from Belarus to Vladivostok.

[jtwcornell91]

Yes it should, which is why I propose the tourney be held in Vladivostok. Time to live up to our rep folks.

That would be an awesome trip. I can just imagine the puzzled Russian security folks at the airport when a load of Cornell fans arrive.

I was going to respond to you in Russian, but the forum doesn't allow posting with Cyrillic alphabets.

Could we all stay with Gotovet's relatives??

::rock::

Only about 11 time zones from Belarus to Vladivostok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCu4e_1MSCI

[Johnny 5]

Yes it should, which is why I propose the tourney be held in Vladivostok. Time to live up to our rep folks.

That would be an awesome trip. I can just imagine the puzzled Russian security folks at the airport when a load of Cornell fans arrive.

I was going to respond to you in Russian, but the forum doesn't allow posting with Cyrillic alphabets.

Could we all stay with Gotovet's relatives??

::rock::

Only about 11 time zones from Belarus to Vladivostok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCu4e_1MSCI

Does that mean we'd hafta rent a car?

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[ursusminor]

I mean, imagine a USCHO forum without RPI's incessant complaints about Schafer. The entire system might collapse.

I didn't realize that we had such power. :-)

Does anyone think that the reason (or one of the reasons) that the ECAC tourney won't be televised is lack of name-recognition of the D-III schools? This possibility was recently raised on the RPI thread on USCHO as a reason that the Ivies might split off.

[Robb]

I mean, imagine a USCHO forum without RPI's incessant complaints about Schafer. The entire system might collapse.

I didn't realize that we had such power. :-)

Does anyone think that the reason (or one of the reasons) that the ECAC tourney won't be televised is lack of name-recognition of the D-III schools? This possibility was recently raised on the RPI thread on USCHO as a reason that the Ivies might split off.

Y'all are just being paranoid.  Trust me - nobody would want to televise the Ivy League Championship Tournament, either.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I mean, imagine a USCHO forum without RPI's incessant complaints about Schafer. The entire system might collapse.

I didn't realize that we had such power. :-)

Does anyone think that the reason (or one of the reasons) that the ECAC tourney won't be televised is lack of name-recognition of the D-III schools? This possibility was recently raised on the RPI thread on USCHO as a reason that the Ivies might split off.

Y'all are just being paranoid.  Trust me - nobody would want to televise the Ivy League Championship Tournament, either.

Paranoia about the Ivy League splitting from the rest of the ECAC is an ECAC tradition.

I am one of the few fans who supports the idea, but I do love the tradition of schools like Clarkson, RPI, and SLU that would be lost were the Ivies to leave the ECAC. I have had this debate at least once before on here.

[ugarte]

As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)

In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

[jtn27]

As I stated earlier, I think a NYC location would be ideal so I looked into what arenas are in NY other than MSG and the Barclays. A good choice might be  St. John's Carnesecca Arena, which seats 5,600. It's a basketball arena, not a hockey arena (I don't know too much about the conversion process, but it should be feasible)

In a thread full of ridiculous things, this stands out as the most insane. You need some better google skills. St. John's Carnesecca Arena has the word "Arena" in its name but it is a GYM. This is like saying that hockey should move from Lynah to the Newman "ARENA" because how hard could the conversion be?

Like I said, I know nothing about the conversions process. I just know that it can be done. I'll take your word for it that it wouldn't work well.

[Josh '99]

We can lose RPI. They haven't been producing within or outside the league on a consistent basis for more than a decade now, and Quinnipiac has really outperformed RPI in the past few years consistently. Still, I would really like to see changes in recruitment rules and season start times for the Ivy League - I think those are the biggest issues barring us from getting better players and performance.

Seriously!?

Yeah, we surely want to lose one of the three programs that has any fans in this league, and one of the three with any national championships.   Also, RPI meshes well academically.  Or...OR! we could drop a program that took 20 years to win a playoff series. DUMP UNION. Jebus.

This.