Red Cast Really Sucks

Started by flyersgolf, January 20, 2012, 08:18:59 PM

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ursusminor

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Quote from: Chris '03This will be a fun comparison:

http://static.psbin.com/h/0/efrzosleb1vas6/Tournament_TV_Annoucement_Women.pdf

Guess who the ECAC has hired to shoot it? ::innocent::

I'm guessing NOT the RPI.tv video team. :-/

I am guessing that it is. :)

http://rpitv.org/news_updates/17-rpi-tv-to-produce-broadcast-of-ecac-womens-hockey-championship-to-be-aired-on-espn3

Rita

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Quote from: Rita
Quote from: mackek2
Quote from: Chris '03This will be a fun comparison:

http://static.psbin.com/h/0/efrzosleb1vas6/Tournament_TV_Annoucement_Women.pdf

Guess who the ECAC has hired to shoot it? ::innocent::

I'm guessing NOT the RPI.tv video team. :-/

I am guessing that it is. :)

http://rpitv.org/news_updates/17-rpi-tv-to-produce-broadcast-of-ecac-womens-hockey-championship-to-be-aired-on-espn3

Excellent::banana::::banana::. I hope they bring their toys (they don't want to depend on the Redcast cables).  And we get Digit too. Bonus.

marty

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: mackek2
Quote from: Chris '03This will be a fun comparison:

http://static.psbin.com/h/0/efrzosleb1vas6/Tournament_TV_Annoucement_Women.pdf

Guess who the ECAC has hired to shoot it? ::innocent::

I'm guessing NOT the RPI.tv video team. :-/

I am guessing that it is. :)

http://rpitv.org/news_updates/17-rpi-tv-to-produce-broadcast-of-ecac-womens-hockey-championship-to-be-aired-on-espn3

The RedCast crew had the right of first refusal but declined to do the broadcast due to prior commitments.

::drunk::::drunk::::drunk::
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Towerroad

Quote from: marty
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: mackek2
Quote from: Chris '03This will be a fun comparison:

http://static.psbin.com/h/0/efrzosleb1vas6/Tournament_TV_Annoucement_Women.pdf

Guess who the ECAC has hired to shoot it? ::innocent::

I'm guessing NOT the RPI.tv video team. :-/

I am guessing that it is. :)

http://rpitv.org/news_updates/17-rpi-tv-to-produce-broadcast-of-ecac-womens-hockey-championship-to-be-aired-on-espn3

The RedCast crew had the right of first refusal but declined to do the broadcast due to prior commitments.

::drunk::::drunk::::drunk::

Just finished watching the Womens game. The RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)

Trotsky

Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Rita

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

I think the RPI crew got to experience the "fun and trials" of broadcasting from Lynah. The 3rd period of the Clarkson-Harvard game started with only Digit on air. The play-by-play guy's (Perry somebody) mike went dead. They got his mike up, but then lost Digit. Mid way through the 3rd, they got both back.

BTW, Harvard up 3-1.  3:42 left, Clarkson has pulled their goalie.

Thomas Larson

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Okay, serious answers now. Not hyperbole. How much would you ACTUALLY pay to get this quality video at our home games for a season? Current season package on Redcast is $40. Would you pay $80? $100? More?

Trotsky

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Okay, serious answers now. Not hyperbole. How much would you ACTUALLY pay to get this quality video at our home games for a season? Current season package on Redcast is $40. Would you pay $80? $100? More?
$100 seems reasonable to me, though I'm not trying to live on a student's budget.  Then again, the students are at the games.

Jordan 04

Quote from: Thomas Larson
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Okay, serious answers now. Not hyperbole. How much would you ACTUALLY pay to get this quality video at our home games for a season? Current season package on Redcast is $40. Would you pay $80? $100? More?

Is this the business model? Provide a shit product year after year after year for $30-$40, so you can eventually turn around and extort 2x, 3x, etc for a decent product? I don't know whats involved is these webcasts, but is there really a great marginal cost to what RPI produces vs. Redcast?

As for pricing, how about we start at free, since most folks have paid hundreds of dollars over the years and basically gotten nothing for their money?

Trotsky

The audio isn't nothing, and that's what we have really paid for -- access to the audio stream.  The video for whatever reason (lack of money for good equipment, lack of technical competence, actual fraud by Redcast and whatever insider they paid off for the rights, etc) has ever been and remains shit, however.

Rosey

Quote from: TrotskyThe audio isn't nothing, and that's what we have really paid for -- access to the audio stream.
I will not pay for audio. Come on: this is 2013.

And FWIW I'm back off RedCast until something dramatic changes. IMO, Yale has set the standard with their Youtube-based offering: it works on every device that supports Youtube and it looks great.
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Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskyThe audio isn't nothing, and that's what we have really paid for -- access to the audio stream.
I will not pay for audio. Come on: this is 2013.
I am just a caveman, and your magical devices that allow me to see or hear hockey without going to it frighten and confuse me.  I have never gotten over the whole wonderful idea.

marty

Quote from: Thomas Larson
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Okay, serious answers now. Not hyperbole. How much would you ACTUALLY pay to get this quality video at our home games for a season? Current season package on Redcast is $40. Would you pay $80? $100? More?

I'm willing to pay what fans currently shell out for the games at Yale and RPI.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jordan 04

Quote from: TrotskyThe audio isn't nothing, and that's what we have really paid for -- access to the audio stream.  

If they advertise video, then we're paying for video. (That's the royal we, since I haven't given them my money in a few years because of the quality issues. I'm surprised so many keep forking over the fee year after year.)

Towerroad

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Thomas Larson
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: TowerroadThe RPI product is good, very good. If this was a hockey game the score would be RPI 6 Redcast 0. (thank heavens it is not)
Not surprised.  Who do we have to blow to wake Cornell up to reality?  Redcast is a Model T trying to compete in F-1.

Okay, serious answers now. Not hyperbole. How much would you ACTUALLY pay to get this quality video at our home games for a season? Current season package on Redcast is $40. Would you pay $80? $100? More?
$100 seems reasonable to me, though I'm not trying to live on a student's budget.  Then again, the students are at the games.
I would probably pay $100 for Mens and Women's hockey. I would pay $200 for a season pass. Provided the quality was as good as the RPI product (I was very very happy with it). I did not renew my redcast subscription this year because of poor quality.