P Postgame

[css228]

Well 3 points isn't bad. I would have taken it Friday AM. How we did it was the terrible part. I guess it could be worse, Harvard had BU 3-1 in the third, only to lose 4-3 in OT. Out shot 20-4 in third and OT.

Momentum really seemed to shift when Iles lost his stick. At least we're three points further clear of Colgate and we still have a game in hand on Union. From where I sat, it looked like we took a ton of dumb penalties in the third. However, I'd like someone to explain to me why the guy who dropped his gloves at McCarron wasn't immediately kicked out. I thought dropping the gloves was an automatic ejection in college.

The only explicit mention of dropping gloves in the rule book is in Rule 6, Section 10, Delay of Game.  

g.  A player shall not intentionally drop the gloves and/or stick.  This includes delay of the game by unnecessarily adjusting equipment or clothing, tying skates, conferring with coaches, players, or others, or committing any act for the obvious purpose of stalling or delaying the game.  PENALTY - Minor.

Section 17 deals with Fighting or Punching:

a. A player shall not fight an opponent or participate in a fight, on or off the playing surface.  A punch thrown may be considered fighting.
PENALTY - Disqualification

b. A player who does not retaliate after being struck shall not be assessed a penalty.

c. When a fight occurs on the ice, all non-participating players, excluding goalkeepers, must proceed immediately and directly to their respective players' bench at the signal,of the referee.  Goalkeepers must remain in the immediate vicinity of their goal crease.
PENALTY - Minor to offending player(s) or goalkeeper.

Seemed like the intent was there to fight (when is the last time someone dropped their gloves without the intent to fight), but I was on the far side of the rink.

[flyersgolf]

Cornell started out slow but withstood initial P pressure and took it to them the second half of the 1st all through the 2nd.  Vince Mihalek just keeps getting more confident and did a great job setting up Mowrey.

As usual Lynah faithful came up with a great cheer after first goal - Princeton's Condon broke!

Brisson knowing there was a delayed penalty jumped up into the play as another forward and was rewarded with a goal.

Team still has issues during second periods of getting off ice when tired.
 
Great team power play goal by Cole Bardreau.  Power play improvement is fantastic, goals will come.  Need to keep fresh troops on throughout power play as there seem to be a reluctance to get off the ice when tired during a power play.

Cornell fell asleep at the beginning of the 3rd.  The first P goal was a whiff by Iles, I am sure he would say of all the goals he should have had that one.  He made a lot tougher saves throughout the night, saving his best for ovetime, where he made several point blanks saves and got the second shots off the initial rebounds too.  Iles was the difference in leaving with a point tonight.  Though letting a 3 goal lead slip away is unheard of by Schafer coached teams.  I chalk it up to youth.

Officiating played into the game too much.

Penalties were called that should not have been on either team.

A puck that I saw cross the blue line into the neutral zone was not called offside's and P scored shortly after and I thought Shafer was going to lose it.  The linesman's view may have been blocked on this play and the rear referee had a good view of it and did not blow his whistle though he definitely saw this was offsides.

The call – non call of the night.  Princeton had 6 men on the ice.  The whistle blew.  They were caught as six skaters were on the ice, no doubt about it and the ref put the face off in the Princeton zone.  No Penalty, why the stoppage when the puck was in the neutral zone and touched by P?  Appeared linesman blew whistle.   Again Schafer about to lose it.

Whitney got pummeled in the defensive corner left of Iles in the 3rd.  Thank God it was not serious as Whitney returned and looked ok.  Definite roughing call at minimum.  Both refs told Shafer they did not see anything.

I would say two of Princeton's penalties should have been non calls.  Once again ECAC puts out referees that do not have a grasp of the college game.  The players today are so much better top to bottom than say 5 years ago.  We now need referees that are on the same skill level as the players.  Schafer gave the refs  an earful on the ice after the game.

McCarron is rugged and so strong on his skates he had a nice get together with a Princeton player that resulted in coincidental roughing penalties. It was obvious he would have destroyed the other play if let go.  John just smiled and went to the box.

If it were my team it would be hard to put Gotovets back on defense.  He is an excellent winger and as strong as anyone on the puck and cycling down low.

The Big Red is fast and skilled as any team we have had in years.  We have a roster full of talented hockey players.  I was impressed by the whole team.   If turnovers at the blue lines are stopped and every shift each player in accountable, good things are on the way.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I still find myself thinking that the third period  was just "wrong."  That's the only woird that comes to mind.  Not disappointing.  Not frustrating.  Just wrong.

Much of what Flyersgolf said about the officiating is spot on.  They missed a too many men call.  I was stunned when they sent both players off for the "fight."  Our guy never dropped his gloves and theirs did and threw punches.  And Flyrersgolf was not the only one who saw that puck cross the blue-line.  I was sitting right there and there was no question it came out of the zone.  In fact, I think our guys let up[ because it was so obviously offside.  Apparently the linesman was the only one who missed it.

But one thing I noticed was Princeton had one hell of a forecheck that we couldn't out-run and really couldn't deal with.  They'd forecheck with two men and our guys would panic.  We'd have real trouble getting the puck under control.  It chewed up a lot of time.

Our powerplay was boring and unimaginative.  No movement without the puck.  Just passing back and forth at the point, trying mostly unsuccessfully to get the puck below the circle, rarely even trying to put a shot on net.  And if that did come, it came from the point though a shit-load of bodies.  That has to change.

[Scersk '97]

But one thing I noticed was Princeton had one hell of a forecheck that we couldn't out-run and really couldn't deal with.  They'd forecheck with two men and our guys would panic.  We'd have real trouble getting the puck under control.  It chewed up a lot of time.

Princeton seemed to change something up defensively in the third that we were having difficulty solving.  I couldn't put my finger on it, though.

If I had to pick a player who had a noticeably bad night, it would be D'Agostino.  When Iles lost his stick, the puck ended up with D'Agostino and, well, he dicked around with it when he should have kept it very, very simple.  That was the goal that changed things.  There were other indecisive moments as well.  The rest of the defense (save Whitney, of course) looked typically strong.

Gotovets looks, indeed, very comfortable at wing.  When we have such talented defensemen, I see this line up oddity as a feature rather than a bug.

[billhoward]

Nice analysis. Thanks.

>>> The call – non call of the night. Princeton had 6 men on the ice. The whistle blew. They were caught as six skaters were on the ice, no doubt about it and the ref put the face off in the Princeton zone. No Penalty, why the stoppage when the puck was in the neutral zone and touched by P? Appeared linesman blew whistle. Again Schafer about to lose it.

... looked at another way, the non-call might have saved us from giving up a man-short goal.

[css228]

Right before the third goal Lowry had the puck and got stripped of it while holding around the blue line. Probably should have flipped it out first time.

[Trotsky]

Yale lost in overtime at Cheel, finishing up a 1-point weekend in the North Country.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Yale lost in overtime at Cheel, finishing up a 1-point weekend in the North Country.

And they drop out of the Pairwise.

[Jim Hyla]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

[Trotsky]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

A coach getting a game misconduct.  That's new.

[Jim Hyla]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

A coach getting a game misconduct.  That's new.

Too bad it wasn't a DQ; that would have made this week interesting.

[cbuckser]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

A coach getting a game misconduct.  That's new.

Too bad it wasn't a DQ; that would have made this week interesting.

According to Cap Carey, the Clarkson beat writer for the Watertown Daily Times, a coach on the Yale bench called one of the referees a motherfucker.  That is how Yale got the bench minor.

[Chris '03]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

A coach getting a game misconduct.  That's new.

Too bad it wasn't a DQ; that would have made this week interesting.

According to Cap Carey, the Clarkson beat writer for the Watertown Daily Times, a coach on the Yale bench called one of the referees a motherfucker.  That is how Yale got the bench minor.

I thought the ref fucked sheep.

[ugarte]

Doesn't need it's own thread, but here's Ken Schott's (Schenectady Daily Gazette) wrap-up on the Yale-Clarkson game:

The Yale-Clarkson game was a wild one, as the Bulldogs blew a 3-1 lead, rallied from a 4-3 deficit to tie it and then lose in overtime, 5-4, on Sam Labrecque's power-play goal.

The Golden Knights got a power play when Yale got a bench minor for unsportsmanlike conduct. After Labrecque's goal, an angry Yale coach Keith Allain complained to referees Andy O'Brien and John Murphy, and got a game misconduct. I have to wonder if ECACH commissioner Steve Hagwell might be talking to Allain about his actions.

Anyone hear or read anything else about this?

A coach getting a game misconduct.  That's new.

Too bad it wasn't a DQ; that would have made this week interesting.

According to Cap Carey, the Clarkson beat writer for the Watertown Daily Times, a coach on the Yale bench called one of the referees a motherfucker.  That is how Yale got the bench minor.

I thought the ref fucked sheep.

Right, that's why he gave the coach a bench minor.

[marty]

Like with Q last night, I'll make this a postgame thread later. However, I wanted to point out that the ECAC Recap of last nights game says that tonight's game will be shown on tape delay by Verizon FiOS 1 on Long Island and New Jersey. If anyone could make me a DVD of it I'd love it. I don't care if it includes the ads and is unedited on multiple DVDs. I'll pay the cost of mailing, etc., and no, I won't pay the cost of getting FiOS 1 and a DVR.:-}

I would also like a DVD or some type of copy of the FIOS broadcast.  I would be happy to pay for costs or to trade for a game that I own on DVD.  If someone gets this to me I will make a copy for Jim, too.