MSG Hockey v. Michigan

[hypotenuse]

I ran into one of the Cornell admin guys who told me that there are discussions with Michigan concerning a game on the Saturday after T-giving
at Madison Square Garden for 2012. Has anyone else heard anything about this? It sounds great.

[Ben]

This would be the most amazing thing in the history of ever. (Well, almost.)

Let's make it happen.

[Beeeej]

If it happens:  I'll bet twenty dollars right now that there will be an uproar from poorly informed Michigan fans when we use some of "their" cheers during the game.

[RichH]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

[marty]

I ran into one of the Cornell admin guys who told me that there are discussions with Michigan concerning a game on the Saturday after T-giving
at Madison Square Garden for 2012. Has anyone else heard anything about this? It sounds great.

At least at MSG we get to choose between buying their airfare or this!**]**]

[Aaron M. Griffin]

If it happens:  I'll bet twenty dollars right now that there will be an uproar from poorly informed Michigan fans when we use some of "their" cheers during the game.

No, the Michigan fans are great with respect to that connection between the Cornell and Michigan hockey programs. My best friend at law school is an alumnus of Michigan and a Michigan hockey fan. He claims that they print shirts in Ann Arbor that read something to the effect that "Chants: Created at Cornell; Perfected at Michigan." Also, many of their bloggers mock other Midwestern teams (Miami in particular) for stealing Michigan's chants because Michigan realizes that they in fact stole their chants from Cornell, so it becomes a series of copies. This article recounts the Michigan side of the story where they give credit to the Faithful at Yost in 1991 for teaching Michigan fans how to be proper college hockey fans.

"The personal cheers and cleverness of Cornell clicked with them, and on that weekend in mid-March, the crowd took its first step toward becoming what it is today. In the face of the rowdy Ivy League crowd, it began to defend its building."

That Cornell-Michigan series at Yost in 1991 holds the record for series and weekend attendance at Michigan still.

[Trotsky]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

That would be great and the first step in maybe creating a Cornell Invitational tourney at MSG.  One thing about NYC: it has more Albanians than Albania, and it probably has more graduates of a lot of schools than the city the school is in.

[css228]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

That would be great and the first step in maybe creating a Cornell Invitational tourney at MSG.  One thing about NYC: it has more Albanians than Albania, and it probably has more graduates of a lot of schools than the city the school is in.

Red/White tourney anyone? (Cornell, Wisconsin, Miami, and of course BU)

[Ben]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

That would be great and the first step in maybe creating a Cornell Invitational tourney at MSG.  One thing about NYC: it has more Albanians than Albania, and it probably has more graduates of a lot of schools than the city the school is in.

Red/White tourney anyone? (Cornell, Wisconsin, Miami, and of course BU)

Four games, Friday and Saturday? Sign me up!

[RatushnyFan]

I think I was at the last Michigan/Cornell game, a 2-2 draw in '96-'97 at Yost.  A 3-3 tie.  No Manderville heroics, but a good game.  Michigan State, Cornell and BU were the only ones to give Michigan any trouble that year.  Tymchyshyn tied it up late in the third I think.  The tie was the best outcome for me, as I was a Michigan grad student at the time.

Michigan is down this year........I'm very surprised at some of the teams they've lost to this year.  They'll rebuild but I doubt they'll be a top 5 team if they play next year.

[marty]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

That would be great and the first step in maybe creating a Cornell Invitational tourney at MSG.  One thing about NYC: it has more Albanians than Albania, and it probably has more graduates of a lot of schools than the city the school is in.

More Trojans than Troy, too.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Ideal. I was hoping for the BU game to morph into a situation where Cornell is considered the "host" of a regular MSG game.  Many Big Boys don't want to make a commitment to come to Lynah? How about a game in front of 18000 in NYC? Yeah, they'll line up for that.

That would be great and the first step in maybe creating a Cornell Invitational tourney at MSG.  One thing about NYC: it has more Albanians than Albania, and it probably has more graduates of a lot of schools than the city the school is in.

Red/White tourney anyone? (Cornell, Wisconsin, Miami, and of course BU)

Four games, Friday and Saturday? Sign me up!

I know that the B1G schools have started to worry with Hockey East, with their addition of Notre Dame, making deals with what will be NBC Sports that they have fallen behind in the publicity war for their hockey programs. All Notre Dame home games will air on NBC Sports after the 2013-14 seasons. The B1G schools fear that they might be resigned to their current markets and coverage from only the BTN. B1G is always interested in money and major market exposure. The Conference might be willing to enter agreements for a tournament or a biannual cycle of a B1G team playing Cornell at The Garden, opposite years of BU-Cornell, to gain the additional media exposure and access to the coveted New York market. That would ensure that Cornell plays a B1G team (Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, or Wisconsin) in non-conference play at least every other year. We could use B1G's fears to our advantage.

[Trotsky]

Michigan is down this year........I'm very surprised at some of the teams they've lost to this year.  They'll rebuild but I doubt they'll be a top 5 team if they play next year.

IINM, Michigan has made the NCAAs every season since 1991.  I won't trust them until they're out of the CCHA Tourney.

[Jim Hyla]

If it happens:  I'll bet twenty dollars right now that there will be an uproar from poorly informed Michigan fans when we use some of "their" cheers during the game.

No, the Michigan fans are great with respect to that connection between the Cornell and Michigan hockey programs. My best friend at law school is an alumnus of Michigan and a Michigan hockey fan. He claims that they print shirts in Ann Arbor that read something to the effect that "Chants: Created at Cornell; Perfected at Michigan." Also, many of their bloggers mock other Midwestern teams (Miami in particular) for stealing Michigan's chants because Michigan realizes that they in fact stole their chants from Cornell, so it becomes a series of copies. This article recounts the Michigan side of the story where they give credit to the Faithful at Yost in 1991 for teaching Michigan fans how to be proper college hockey fans.

"The personal cheers and cleverness of Cornell clicked with them, and on that weekend in mid-March, the crowd took its first step toward becoming what it is today. In the face of the rowdy Ivy League crowd, it began to defend its building."

That Cornell-Michigan series at Yost in 1991 holds the record for series and weekend attendance at Michigan still.

And this quote from the article:

Berenson is 8-1 in regionals at Yost, with the lone loss coming in the first game against Cornell in 1991.

"I don't know in any one of those three years (1998, 2002, 2003) if we could have beat that team — the teams we played against — either in a neutral site or definitely in their building," Pearson said. "But because of the situation, the atmosphere, being in Yost, it really helped us get by those teams."

[KeithK]

Michigan is down this year........I'm very surprised at some of the teams they've lost to this year.  They'll rebuild but I doubt they'll be a top 5 team if they play next year.

IINM, Michigan has made the NCAAs every season since 1991.  I won't trust them until they're out of the CCHA Tourney.

Well, I'd bet good money that that will happen within a couple years...