lles is not the answer

Started by Cop at Lynah, October 21, 2011, 09:08:17 PM

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ajh258

Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: ajh258Scrivens was the answer, so if Iles gets the ECAC Championship and then into the Forzen Fours, then he will become the answer.

I appreciate everything Scrivens did while at Cornell, but I must have missed those Frozen Fours.

Scrivens didn't have the firing power that Iles has now, so the bar must be set higher.

ithacat

Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: ajh258Scrivens was the answer, so if Iles gets the ECAC Championship and then into the Forzen Fours, then he will become the answer.

I appreciate everything Scrivens did while at Cornell, but I must have missed those Frozen Fours.

Scrivens didn't have the firing power that Iles has now, so the bar must be set higher.

I hope you're correct. Ben's senior season did have a team that had 3 100-pointers (Greening, R. Nash, and Gallagher), plus a couple of other guys who made it to the AHL pretty quickly (ie, their first year out of Cornell (B. Nash and J. Devin). Personally, I think that team probably should have made it to the FF once, if not twice. They were eliminated by a UNH team that they had dominated during the season (RIT came out of the Albany region). The year earlier they fell to a hot Bemidji State in the Regional Final. Things really were set up for them those last 2 seasons -- they were talented, experienced, and the draws allowed them to avoid WCHA powers.

This team may have a lot of talent, but they're relatively young and inexperienced. Need to be patient. I'd be very happy with an NCAA berth this season.

Chris '03

Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: BMacGod I love the forzen four. Definitely better than all the other fours, such as final or frozen.

Brom performed admirably at the last one.

Ylae has never had the answer for them.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Josh '99

Quote from: ugarteAhem.
OK, but let's be realistic:  we all know bad goalies have good games sometimes (usually against [insert team the speaker roots for here]).  If you thought Iles wasn't the answer before this weekend, good performances in mid-November home games against middling opposition aren't likely to change your mind.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Jordan 04

Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ugarteAhem.
OK, but let's be realistic:  we all know bad goalies have good games sometimes (usually against [insert team the speaker roots for here]).  If you thought Iles wasn't the answer before this weekend, good performances in mid-November home games against middling opposition aren't likely to change your mind.

Good goalies also have bad games sometimes. They can also improve between ages 19-22.

ugarte

Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ugarteAhem.
OK, but let's be realistic:  we all know bad goalies have good games sometimes (usually against [insert team the speaker roots for here]).  If you thought Iles wasn't the answer before this weekend, good performances in mid-November home games against middling opposition aren't likely to change your mind.
Let's see how many other goalies blank this middling travel pair this season. I'll bet the answer is zero. I'm not making the argument that he needs a new suit for the Hobey ceremony but "[Player] sucks" threads started a week into the season deserve to be mocked.

Chris '03

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ugarteAhem.
OK, but let's be realistic:  we all know bad goalies have good games sometimes (usually against [insert team the speaker roots for here]).  If you thought Iles wasn't the answer before this weekend, good performances in mid-November home games against middling opposition aren't likely to change your mind.
Let's see how many other goalies blank this middling travel pair this season. I'll bet the answer is zero. I'm not making the argument that he needs a new suit for the Hobey ceremony but "[Player] sucks" threads started a week day into the preseason deserve to be mocked.

FYP.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Josh '99

Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ugarteAhem.
OK, but let's be realistic:  we all know bad goalies have good games sometimes (usually against [insert team the speaker roots for here]).  If you thought Iles wasn't the answer before this weekend, good performances in mid-November home games against middling opposition aren't likely to change your mind.

Good goalies also have bad games sometimes. They can also improve between ages 19-22.
Sure.  To clarify, I'm not defending the original premise of the thread, I'm just saying that if you did agree with that premise, these two games probably won't have changed your mind.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Josh '99

Quote from: BMacGod I love the forzen four. Definitely better than all the other fours, such as final or frozen.
It's the for-est of all the fours.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Cop at Lynah

As the starter of this thread I have to say I was very impressed with Andy on Saturday night.  He was the difference in the first period.  I'm also unbiased enough to recognoze his improvement.  Only once in Saturday's game did I scratch my head at him going down to his stomach while the puck was still in play.  Other than that one brief moment he postioned himself well and kept himself in the play.  Andy has shown marked improvement over the first segment of the schedule. His contunued development is key to the success of this years team.

MotherPucker

Since people seem to think that Scrivens has achieved some form of Deity status for his efforts at Cornell and now having elevated his game to the Show,  Let's take a look back at his and Iles' comparable stats for the same time frames in their tenure on the hill to this point.  Remember that Iles was a true 18 yr old Freshman and Scrivens was 20 his first game for the Red.  In terms of physical maturity that's a Big difference.

Glad to see the coaching staff has far more knowledge and foresight into how to run their team then the Monday morning Bench Bosses around these parts.  There is no ANSWER.  other than 42.  All you can do is hope for successful seasons and support the Team and coaching staff in every way possible.   Enjoy the ride while it lasts and don't get down on them when they run into a bad spell.  




year              gs   min.    GA  GAA    Sh   S%    W L T   SO
1011 fr  Iles     18  1010:49  42  2.49   444 .914   8 7 2   0
1112 so  Iles      7   417:40  16  2.30     154 .906   5 2 0   2   
 
Oct 29  Mercyhurst    L 4-5  0-1-0   Iles
Nov 04  at Yale       W 6-2  1-1-0   Iles    
Nov 05  at Brown      L 4-5  1-2-0   Iles
Nov 11  at Harvard    W 4-2  2-2-0   Iles        
Nov 12  at Dartmouth  W 3-2  3-2-0   Iles   
Nov 18  Princeton     W 4-0  4-2-0   Iles
Nov 19  Quinnipiac    W 4-0  5-2-0   Iles
Nov 22  Niagara
Nov 26  Boston University

year              gs   min.   ga  gaa   sh   S%    W  L T SO
0607 fr  Scrivens 12  573:55  22 2.30   224 .911   3  6 2 0
0708 so  Scrivens 35 1962:43  66 2.02   883 .930  19 12 2 4

Oct 27 RIT            L 1-4   0-1-0  Scrivens
Nov 02 PRINCETON      L 2-3   0-2-0  Davenport
Nov 03 QUINNIPIAC     W 5-3   1-2-0  Scrivens
Nov 09 at Yale        W 2-1   2-2-0  Scrivens
Nov 10 at BRWN        W 4-1   3-2-0  Scrivens
Nov 16 at #19 Harvard L 1-2   3-3-0  Scrivens
Nov 17 at Dartmouth   W 4-1   4-3-0  Scrivens
Nov 24 vs Boston U    L 3-6   4-4-0  Scrivens

marty

What is the square root of 1764, Alex?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

RichH

Quote from: MotherPuckerThere is no ANSWER.  other than 42.

This forum figured that out organically.

ftyuv

What do you get when you multiply six by nine?

css228

Quote from: ftyuvWhat do you get when you multiply six by nine?
That would be the question if we're in base 13.