lles is not the answer

[ajh258]

From:
http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2011/10/24/m-hockey-freshmen%E2%80%88captains-prove-key-preseason-win-over-carleton

Head coach Mike Schafer '86 was pleased to get all three goalies playing experience this weekend, but noted, "Andy is our No. 1. We know that as a coaching staff."

Maybe someone should forward the thread to the coaching staff so they have the benefit of our collective insights. They may have been blinded by seeing Iles too often. As Malcolm Gladwell notes in Blink, sometimes first impressions are better and more accurate. As a Harvard alum, perhaps Gladwell formed the kernel of that insight when he wandered into Bright Center, saw the Crimson play, and immediately came away with a two-word judgment that is eternally correct.

Technically, this is a correct statement if Marozzi hasn't proved himself to be as good of a goalie as Iles during practice. However, this quote, which might be taken out of context, is also implying that Iles is a good enough goalie, which is not completely accurate.

[Jim Hyla]

From:
http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2011/10/24/m-hockey-freshmen%E2%80%88captains-prove-key-preseason-win-over-carleton

Head coach Mike Schafer '86 was pleased to get all three goalies playing experience this weekend, but noted, "Andy is our No. 1. We know that as a coaching staff."

Maybe someone should forward the thread to the coaching staff so they have the benefit of our collective insights. They may have been blinded by seeing Iles too often. As Malcolm Gladwell notes in Blink, sometimes first impressions are better and more accurate. As a Harvard alum, perhaps Gladwell formed the kernel of that insight when he wandered into Bright Center, saw the Crimson play, and immediately came away with a two-word judgment that is eternally correct.

Technically, this is a correct statement if Marozzi hasn't proved himself to be as good of a goalie as Iles during practice. However, this quote, which might be taken out of context, is also implying that Iles is a good enough goalie, which is not completely accurate.

No it doesn't. It says he's their No. 1, says nothing about being good enough. It implies that he's better than the rest. I think he has the possibility to improve as Scrivens did. If so, this team could have a very good next few years. I'm very hopefull. But that's just me.

[css228]

From:
http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2011/10/24/m-hockey-freshmen%E2%80%88captains-prove-key-preseason-win-over-carleton

Head coach Mike Schafer '86 was pleased to get all three goalies playing experience this weekend, but noted, "Andy is our No. 1. We know that as a coaching staff."

Maybe someone should forward the thread to the coaching staff so they have the benefit of our collective insights. They may have been blinded by seeing Iles too often. As Malcolm Gladwell notes in Blink, sometimes first impressions are better and more accurate. As a Harvard alum, perhaps Gladwell formed the kernel of that insight when he wandered into Bright Center, saw the Crimson play, and immediately came away with a two-word judgment that is eternally correct.

First impressions are also incredibly hard to change, so maybe they just have a different first impression than you do and are still working off that impression. Hopefully though he's this negativity is proven unwarranted and Iles takes command of the top spot. I'm just a little concerned about his size and decision making/abilities when it comes to handling the puck. While this wouldn't be necessary, it would be awesome. I guess we could settle for DiPietro or Turco though...

[Jordan 04]

::popcorn::

[steveb]

OK, I'll start. It was frustrating to watch Andy at times last night. He makes some saves no one should be able to make (the post-to-post pad save in the first, right before Mercyhurst tied it at 1, was a thing of beauty), allows goals many goalies would stop (but aren't necessarily terrible goals), and (worst of all) seems to spend a lot of his time catching pucks at head height and above when in the butterfly, or doing a good imitation of someone looking for contact lenses on their belly. All that being said, our D blew a lot of assignments last night; surprising because that's the group with plenty of experience.  

Cornell's best goalies, it seems to me, have always been very "quiet" goalies; Andy so far is anything but that. His quickness is a great asset but his need to be quick/frantic is often a result of being out of position. I just hope the last game of last season and the first game of this one don't start messing with his head. GO RED!!!

[MattS]

My take on Iles is that because of his flopping style he looks worse than he is a lot of the time. It's tough to accurately judge a goaltender when he plays like that. Now whether he needs to play like that is the question. Is it because of his lack of size and he compensates with his quickness thus he had developed that style? Maybe he would benefit by trying to play a more traditional butterfly style.


With all of that being said, I put him in the adequate goaltender category. I don't think he will steal Cornell any games by being outstanding but on the other hand I don't think he is going to loose many games by being horrible.

[css228]

My take on Iles is that because of his flopping style he looks worse than he is a lot of the time. It's tough to accurately judge a goaltender when he plays like that. Now whether he needs to play like that is the question. Is it because of his lack of size and he compensates with his quickness thus he had developed that style? Maybe he would benefit by trying to play a more traditional butterfly style.


With all of that being said, I put him in the adequate goaltender category. I don't think he will steal Cornell any games by being outstanding but on the other hand I don't think he is going to loose many games by being horrible.

I think you're right that he almost has to play this style because of his size. And he did steal us away at Harvard last year. I'm not sure he'd benefit from a pure butterfly though because his size means a lot of the top portion of the net would be there for the taking. Perhaps hybrid?

[Roy 82]

What Ithaca native collegiate goalie has a last name that rhymes with "smiles"?

[cmoberg]

I thought Iles looked ok most of the time, but he showed very poor anticipation/reaction to the 5th goal (the one the went off a skate).  He seemed frozen to his left when the pass went to the right.

[CowbellGuy]

Hopefully Kris Mayotte will be able to help him along. It's been a while since Cornell had a goalie coach. I suspect he'll be fine on most nights.

[Rita]

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,171014,171034#msg-171034.

Remember folks, Scrivens  spent most of the 2006-2007 season flopping around the ice, wandering way too far from the net and sending many people on ELF (and I'm sure in the stands) into minor fits. I'm inclined to give Iles the benefit of the doubt and see how he progresses through the season. This is one of the few things I'm actually optimistic about (which goes against my nature and inner Eeyore).

[Dafatone]

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,171014,171034#msg-171034.

Remember folks, Scrivens  spent most of the 2006-2007 season flopping around the ice, wandering way too far from the net and sending many people on ELF (and I'm sure in the stands) into minor fits. I'm inclined to give Iles the benefit of the doubt and see how he progresses through the season. This is one of the few things I'm actually optimistic about (which goes against my nature and inner Eeyore).

Scrivens just made 38 of 39 saves in the NHL, and back in 06-07, I wanted Troy Davenport to play over him.  This is why I'm not coaching.  Well, one reason.

[billhoward]

Let's spend more time analyzing why Scrivens let that 39th opportunity get behind him. It could be a cause for alarm.

[Trotsky]

Let's spend more time analyzing why Scrivens let that 39th opportunity get behind him. It could be a cause for alarm.

The game has left him behind.

[dag14]

Catching up on the over-night posts over my second cup of morning coffee.  When I got to this Scrivens thread I laughed so hard I spit coffee all over my computer.  Thank you.  This is what makes eLynah a treasure, in spite of the John Harvards-type rants.