Lacrosse 2011 polls [5/2 #2 all polls]

[Al DeFlorio]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

[billhoward]

Probably dates back to the Miller Time chant their daddies taught them.

[Jim Hyla]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

D- Pace of play - Soccer scores don't strengthen the game's argument as the fastest on two feet. Too much standing around, waiting for endless substitutions, coupled with conservative zone defenses, and cautious offensive schemes have left fans craving excitement. Sports fans who watch lacrosse wonder why the game doesn't have a shot clock. If the product isn't compelling, only the hardcore will watch.

F Attendance - Frozen fans, no marketing, and pace-less games equal empty seats at college lacrosse games in February and March.

Agree, if they don't put in a shot clock, it won't be worth watching anymore. They've tried everything else, remember 6 long sticks; it's time to do it, or we're looking at soccer with sticks.

[Jacob '06]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

D- Pace of play - Soccer scores don't strengthen the game's argument as the fastest on two feet. Too much standing around, waiting for endless substitutions, coupled with conservative zone defenses, and cautious offensive schemes have left fans craving excitement. Sports fans who watch lacrosse wonder why the game doesn't have a shot clock. If the product isn't compelling, only the hardcore will watch.

F Attendance - Frozen fans, no marketing, and pace-less games equal empty seats at college lacrosse games in February and March.

Agree, if they don't put in a shot clock, it won't be worth watching anymore. They've tried everything else, remember 6 long sticks; it's time to do it, or we're looking at soccer with sticks.

I'd rather them fix the sticks before they put in a shot clock. If you get hit full force on your stick, the ball should come out. The pockets are too big. Everyone would love more ground balls and more fast breaks due to turnovers.

[Jim Hyla]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

D- Pace of play - Soccer scores don't strengthen the game's argument as the fastest on two feet. Too much standing around, waiting for endless substitutions, coupled with conservative zone defenses, and cautious offensive schemes have left fans craving excitement. Sports fans who watch lacrosse wonder why the game doesn't have a shot clock. If the product isn't compelling, only the hardcore will watch.

F Attendance - Frozen fans, no marketing, and pace-less games equal empty seats at college lacrosse games in February and March.

Agree, if they don't put in a shot clock, it won't be worth watching anymore. They've tried everything else, remember 6 long sticks; it's time to do it, or we're looking at soccer with sticks.

I'd rather them fix the sticks before they put in a shot clock. If you get hit full force on your stick, the ball should come out. The pockets are too big. Everyone would love more ground balls and more fast breaks due to turnovers.

Fixing the sticks still won't speed up the game. It'll just mean the other team is slowing it down. If Hopkins doesn't want to fast break, they won't when they get the ball, regardless. If the game is to progress, shot clock and alternating possession.

[Al DeFlorio]

Yale comes from behind to tie Penn in the last minute but Penn goes on to win in three OTs.  At Penn.  Yale lead 6-3 at the half but Penn scored three quick ones to open the second half to tie it.  Sound familiar?

[Killer]

That seemed to have been the attitude at women's hockey until the later stages of this season. It didn't stop us from trying to create some atmosphere, but we'll see how things go on Saturday.

I'm not saying to avoid trying to create some atmosphere.  I remember a lot more atmosphere at lacrosse games back "when I was a lad" so it was certainly done in the past.  Just keep it clean.

I didn't mean to conflate swearing and atmosphere...at most it's going to be like the women's hockey playoff games. If not that, we'll try to befriend the refs (it works, we've tried), and find a song that we can fit Pannell's name into.

That seemed to have been the attitude at women's hockey until the later stages of this season.

I was pretty surprised by the extension of the typical crowd chants into the women's games at the end of the year.  I guess it means the program has arrived and I can't really argue against it without implicitly invoking a gender double standard so...

meh, I still didn't like it.

So you were one of the people giving us a hairy eyeball, then...

:-D

I had 2 Hairy Eyeballs (Lagunitas Brwing Company) last night at my favorite bar: American Craft in Brookline.  Damn good brew.

[billhoward]

Yale comes from behind to tie Penn in the last minute but Penn goes on to win in three OTs.  At Penn.  Yale lead 6-3 at the half but Penn scored three quick ones to open the second half to tie it.  Sound familiar?

Too bad for our cause. Penn looks like the other league power this year and it would be nice for us to have Penn with two defeats in case we stumble somewhere between now and the Ivy playoffs, although if Cornell and Penn both finished with one league loss, the deciding factor for the home field for the playoffs is the head to head record?

[JasonN95]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

I think Shamel Bratton took himself out of the race today. Bratton was on the sideline for the UVA vs Maryland game for, according to the tv announcer, disciplinary reasons.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Brown and Princeton go to 4 OT's today!  Princeton 5-4 final.

Sounds like a hockey score.

[Al DeFlorio]

Quint continues to like Pannell: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/01/quint-kessenichs-midseason-report-card

I think Shamel Bratton took himself out of the race today. Bratton was on the sideline for the UVA vs Maryland game for, according to the tv announcer, disciplinary reasons.

Missed the Stony Brook game, along with his brother, also for an "undisclosed" team rules reason.

[Al DeFlorio]

April 4 polls:  Coaches and media say #6; Quint #4; laxpower forum guys #5.

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-04-04

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-04-04

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/04/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-7-analysis

http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43095

[Chris '03]

Yale comes from behind to tie Penn in the last minute but Penn goes on to win in three OTs.  At Penn.  Yale lead 6-3 at the half but Penn scored three quick ones to open the second half to tie it.  Sound familiar?

Too bad for our cause. Penn looks like the other league power this year and it would be nice for us to have Penn with two defeats in case we stumble somewhere between now and the Ivy playoffs, although if Cornell and Penn both finished with one league loss, the deciding factor for the home field for the playoffs is the head to head record?

It'd also be nice to take the title outright.

[billhoward]

The 13-12 win over Harvard moves us up one place to #5 behind Syracuse and Notre Dame (both unbeaten) followed by Hopkins, Maryland, Cornell and Denver all at 8-2. Talk about no respect: Princeton plays the Orange to a decent 7-5 loss and gets not even an also-mentioned vote. Army's season sort of deflated after beating us. The Cadets are 7-4 and yet to play the likes of Navy and Hopkins, plus the post-season that will likely include Afghanistan and Iraq. Good luck to them on the pro-after-graduation part.

http://www.usila.org/polls.html

[ebilmes]

We're #1 in the computer rankings...

http://www.laxpower.com/update11/binmen/rating01.php