Lacrosse 2011 polls [5/2 #2 all polls]

[billhoward]

[See further down thread for current poll]

Week of March 7 polls after #5 (Inside Lacrosse) /#6 (USILA) Cornell's 11-9 loss to Army. The coaches dropped Cornell to #14 and only raised Army 3 spots to #16. Four Ivies in the top 20 now: 7 Princeton, 9 Penn, 14 Cornell, 18 Yale. This year Cornell plays the teams ranked 1-2-6-7-9-16-18 - 5 of the top 10, 7 of the top 20.

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[b]USILA Coaches' Poll 3/7/11[/b]
Rank School   Record Points LastWeek
[b]1 Syracuse   3-0 240(12) 1 tie
2 Virginia    4-1 222 1 tie[/b]
3 Notre Dame  3-0 218 4
4 Hofstra     4-0 204 5
5 UMass       4-0 187 9
[b]6 Stony Brook 1-1 156 7[/b]
[b]7 Princeton   1-1 152 10 tie[/b]
8 Maryland    2-1 137 3
[b]9 Penn        3-0 130 14[/b]
10 Loyola     3-0 118 10 tie
11 Hopkins    3-1 112 8
12 Duke       2-2 103 15
13 Ohio State 4-1 94 12
[b]14 Cornell    2-1 87 6[/b]
15 N Carolina 3-1 82 13
[b]16 Army       2-2 69 19[/b]
17 Denver     2-1 66 18
[b]18 Yale       3-0 49 17[/b]
19 Rutgers    4-0 30 nr
20 Villanova  3-1 26 nr
Cornell's opponents in bold.


[kingpin248]

The Inside Lacrosse media poll for March 7:

Rank   Team            Points   1st Place Votes      
1   Syracuse   240   12      
2   Virginia   222         
3   Notre Dame      217         
4   Hofstra           208         
5   UMass           173         
6   Stony Brook   169         
7   Princeton   166         
8   Maryland   163         
9   Cornell           124         
10   UNC           120         
11   Army           104         
12   Loyola           96         
13   Penn           91         
14   Denver           87         
15   Duke           84         
16   Ohio State   70         
17   Johns Hopkins   63         
18   Yale           52         
19   Bucknell   18         
20   Georgetown   12

[billhoward]

The 2-point loss to #2 Virginia moves Cornell up 2 spots. Our opponents in red.  

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[b]USILA March 14, 2011
Team         Record Points Prev Wk  vs. Cornell[/b]  
[color=#FF0000]1 Syracuse ...........4-0 199(9) 1 vs. Cornell 4/12 away
2 Virginia ...........6-1 185 2    L 11-9[/color]  
3 Notre Dame  ........4-0 182(1) 3
4 Hofstra ............5-0 171 4
[color=#FF0000]5 Stony Brook  .......2-1 153 6    3/22 away [/color]
6 Maryland ...........4-1 143 8
7 Duke ...............4-2 124 12
8 North Carolina  ....5-1 123 15
9 Johns Hopkins  .....5-1 108 11
10 UMass .............4-1 107 5
[color=#FF0000]11 Princeton .........1-2 94 7    4/30 Ithaca[/color]
[b]12 Cornell ...........3-2 76 14[/b]
[color=#FF0000]13 Army ..............4-2 67 16   L 11-9[/color]
14 Albany ............3-1 66 nr
15 Villanva [sic].....5-1 65 20
[color=#FF0000]16 Yale ..............4-0 59 18   3/19 away (this weekend)[/color]
17 Loyola ............3-1 41 10
[color=#FF0000]18 Penn ..............3-2 40 9    3/26 Ithaca[/color]
19 Denver ............3-2 39 17
20 Ohio State  .......5-2 30 13
Also receiving votes: Bucknell, [color=#FF0000]Harvard[/color], Drexel,Georgetown

[edit fixing dates, locations] Three Ivies in the top 20 plus Harvard HM. Six of the top 20 from NY State: Syracuse, Hofstra, Stony Brook, Cornell, Army, Albany. From all of Dixie, if I counted correctly, six more (3 from Maryland plus 3 from secessionist states).

The Inside Lacrosse poll for 3/14 has us in the top ten: [code]
Rank  Team Points 1st Place Votes  
1 SYRACUSE Syracuse University ......240 12  
2 UVA University of Virginia ........224    
3 ND University of Notre Dame .......216    
4 HOFSTRA Hofstra University ........207    
5 SBU Stony Brook University ........175    
6 UNC University of North Carolina ..168    
7 MARYLAND University of Maryland ...158    
8 DUKE Duke University ..............139    
9 CORNELL Cornell University ........121    
10 ARMY Army ........................119    
11 PRINCETON Princeton University ...118    
12 UMASS University of Massachusetts 116    
13 JHU Johns Hopkins University .....108    
14 ALBANY University at Albany....... 68    
15 LOYOLA Loyola University.......... 64    
16 DENVER University of Denver....... 55    
17 YALE Yale University.............. 53    
18 VILLANOVA Villanova University.... 51    
19 BUCKNELL Bucknell University...... 31    
20 OSU Ohio State University......... 29    
Also Receiving Votes
University of Pennsylvania , Harvard University , Georgetown University [code]

[Jacob '06]

The 2-point loss to #2 Virginia moves Cornell up 2 spots. Our opponents in red.  

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[b]USILA March 14, 2011
Team         Record Points Prev Wk  vs. Cornell[/b]  
[color=#FF0000]1 Syracuse ...........4-0 199(9) 1 vs. Cornell 4/12 Ithaca
2 Virginia ...........6-1 185 2    L 11-9[/color]  
3 Notre Dame  ........4-0 182(1) 3
4 Hofstra ............5-0 171 4
[color=#FF0000]5 Stony Brook  .......2-1 153 6    3/22 away [/color]
6 Maryland ...........4-1 143 8
7 Duke ...............4-2 124 12
8 North Carolina  ....5-1 123 15
9 Johns Hopkins  .....5-1 108 11
10 UMass .............4-1 107 5
[color=#FF0000]11 Princeton .........1-2 94 7    4/30 Ithaca[/color]
[b]12 Cornell ...........3-2 76 14[/b]
[color=#FF0000]13 Army ..............4-2 67 16   L 11-9[/color]
14 Albany ............3-1 66 nr
15 Villanva [sic].....5-1 65 20
[color=#FF0000]16 Yale ..............4-0 59 18   4/19 away[/color]
17 Loyola ............3-1 41 10
[color=#FF0000]18 Penn ..............3-2 40 9    3/26 Ithaca[/color]
19 Denver ............3-2 39 17
20 Ohio State  .......5-2 30 13
Also receiving votes: Bucknell, [color=#FF0000]Harvard[/color], Drexel,Georgetown

Three Ivies in the top 20 plus Harvard HM. Six of the top 20 from NY State: Syracuse, Hofstra, Stony Brook, Cornell, Army, Albany. From all of Dixie, if I counted correctly, six more (3 from Maryland plus 3 from secessionist states).

The Inside Lacrosse poll for 3/14 has us in the top ten: [code]
Rank  Team Points 1st Place Votes  
1 SYRACUSE Syracuse University ......240 12  
2 UVA University of Virginia ........224    
3 ND University of Notre Dame .......216    
4 HOFSTRA Hofstra University ........207    
5 SBU Stony Brook University ........175    
6 UNC University of North Carolina ..168    
7 MARYLAND University of Maryland ...158    
8 DUKE Duke University ..............139    
9 CORNELL Cornell University ........121    
10 ARMY Army ........................119    
11 PRINCETON Princeton University ...118    
12 UMASS University of Massachusetts 116    
13 JHU Johns Hopkins University .....108    
14 ALBANY University at Albany....... 68    
15 LOYOLA Loyola University.......... 64    
16 DENVER University of Denver....... 55    
17 YALE Yale University.............. 53    
18 VILLANOVA Villanova University.... 51    
19 BUCKNELL Bucknell University...... 31    
20 OSU Ohio State University......... 29    
Also Receiving Votes
University of Pennsylvania , Harvard University , Georgetown University [code]

The Yale game is March 19th and the Syracuse game is at Syracuse.

[billhoward]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint. [edit add: The Quint comment on the at-large bid is about SB's chances of a bid. It's the paragraph about Stony Brook being ranked No. 14.]

[Al DeFlorio]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

[Chris '03]

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.[/quote]

Seriously. This is lacrosse. It's not who you beat but who you schedule. ::rolleyes::
I also can't 100% tell if he means an at large for SBU or CU is riding on the game.

[semsox]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

Pretty sure he's referring to Stony Brook's chance of an at-large bid.  This is their only other high profile game (the other being an 8-7 loss to Virginia early in the year).  Their schedule is very underwhelming from here on out.

[ugarte]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

Pretty sure he's referring to Stony Brook's chance of an at-large bid.  This is their only other high profile game (the other being an 8-7 loss to Virginia early in the year).  Their schedule is very underwhelming from here on out.

You are not giving him much credit for writing clearly. Why would he say "a Cornell win" to refer to "a win over Cornell"? And does Stony Brook have even the slightest chance at an at-large bid even if they beat Cornell?

[scoop85]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

Pretty sure he's referring to Stony Brook's chance of an at-large bid.  This is their only other high profile game (the other being an 8-7 loss to Virginia early in the year).  Their schedule is very underwhelming from here on out.

You are not giving him much credit for writing clearly. Why would he say "a Cornell win" to refer to "a win over Cornell"? And does Stony Brook have even the slightest chance at an at-large bid even if they beat Cornell?

I agree it's poorly written, but I have little doubt that he's referring to Stony Brook's chances for an at-large bid, not Cornell's

[Al DeFlorio]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

Pretty sure he's referring to Stony Brook's chance of an at-large bid.  This is their only other high profile game (the other being an 8-7 loss to Virginia early in the year).  Their schedule is very underwhelming from here on out.

You are not giving him much credit for writing clearly. Why would he say "a Cornell win" to refer to "a win over Cornell"? And does Stony Brook have even the slightest chance at an at-large bid even if they beat Cornell?

I agree it's poorly written, but I have little doubt that he's referring to Stony Brook's chances for an at-large bid, not Cornell's

Especially as it's in Quint's Stony Brook write-up.

[billhoward]

The bigger oddity in the polls is Princeton's fall from 7 to 11 to also-got-votes in the first 3 March polls. I think they won't stay that low for long.

Their best player from last year, middie Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year, is out of school. He broke his collarbone in fall ball and withdrew for the year. (I hope he still finished fall semester. That's a lot of tuition money to toss away.) Princeton says he is working to rejoin the team (next season). He also deferred a year before entering Princeton because of a bad back.

Thomas Schreiber, the Inside Lacrosse #2 entering freshman (Chanenchuk's HS teammate), was reported banged up at Penn but did play. He could be the next Rob Pannell. Tyler Fiorito, the All-America goalie, played. It's hard to tell if the Tigers' injury list is worse than normal or just typical for lacrosse this year.

Meanwhile this is a crucial week for Cornell with Stony Brook tonight (on the Guyland) and Saturday hosting Penn (1 pm).

[Jim Hyla]

The bigger oddity in the polls is Princeton's fall from 7 to 11 to also-got-votes in the first 3 March polls. I think they won't stay that low for long.

Their best player from last year, middie Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year, is out of school. He broke his collarbone in fall ball and withdrew for the year. (I hope he still finished fall semester. That's a lot of tuition money to toss away.) Princeton says he is working to rejoin the team (next season). He also deferred a year before entering Princeton because of a bad back.

Thomas Schreiber, the Inside Lacrosse #2 entering freshman (Chanenchuk's HS teammate), was reported banged up at Penn but did play. He could be the next Rob Pannell. Tyler Fiorito, the All-America goalie, played. It's hard to tell if the Tigers' injury list is worse than normal or just typical for lacrosse this year.

Meanwhile this is a crucial week for Cornell with Stony Brook tonight (on the Guyland) and Saturday hosting Penn (1 pm).

Isn't it better English to say "on Guyland"?::dribble::

[billhoward]

Meanwhile this is a crucial week for Cornell with Stony Brook tonight (on the Guyland) and Saturday hosting Penn (1 pm).

Isn't it better English to say "on Guyland"?::dribble::

I was taught the Lawn part of Lawn Guyland was implied and never spoken. On was not a substitute for Lawn, but I see how it could grown on you. Driftng slightly, I believe the correct pronunciation still has an R at the end of Maria. Good Catholics would say, "Ave Mariar." Also while most living west of the Hudson would seek change for a quarter, in New York City and points east, you'd ask "change of a quarter." Or quartah, loaning the ending R to Maria. Fortunately we all pronounce Screw BU similarly and correctly.

The thought of calling any of this "better English" - mind-boggling.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Meanwhile this is a crucial week for Cornell with Stony Brook tonight (on the Guyland) and Saturday hosting Penn (1 pm).

Isn't it better English to say "on Guyland"?::dribble::

I was taught the Lawn part of Lawn Guyland was implied and never spoken. On was not a substitute for Lawn, but I see how it could grown on you. Driftng slightly, I believe the correct pronunciation still has an R at the end of Maria. Good Catholics would say, "Ave Mariar." Also while most living west of the Hudson would seek change for a quarter, in New York City and points east, you'd ask "change of a quarter." Or quartah, loaning the ending R to Maria. Fortunately we all pronounce Screw BU similarly and correctly.

The thought of calling any of this "better English" - mind-boggling.

The Cornell Deskbook, circa 1978, spelled it Lawn-Goy-Lind, and also referred to it as "The Oylind."