Lacrosse 2011 polls [5/2 #2 all polls]

[ugarte]

Our win over Yale moves Cornell up 2 spots to No. 10 in the USILA poll. Four Ivies in the USILA top 20: 10 Cornell, 13 Penn, 18 Harvard, 19 Yale. Princeton at 1-4 is down to being an also-mentioned after an 8-3 loss at Penn, its first in 22 P vs. P games. Inside Lacrosse/Nike poll has us at No. 7, tomorrow's opponent, Stony Brook, at No. 10.

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[b]Team Record Points Previous Week[/b]  
1 Syracuse ................ 6-0 280(14) 1
2 Virginia .................7-1 264 2
3 Notre Dame  ..............4-0 254 3
4 Duke .....................5-2 228 7
5 Maryland .................5-1 225 6
6 North Carolina  ..........5-2 171 8
7 Villanova ................7-1 161 15
8 Tie  Hofstra .............5-1 158 4
8 Tie  Army ................5-2 158 13
[color=#FF0000][b]10 Cornell .................4-2 157 12[/b][/color]
11 Johns Hopkins  ..........5-2 149 9
12 Stony Brook  ............3-2 127 5  <<< Tuesday 3/22 hosts Cornell
13 Penn ....................4-2 119 18
14 UMass ...................5-2 92 10
15 Denver ..................5-2 91 19
16 Albany ..................5-2 79 14
17 Bucknell ................6-1 60 nr
18 Harvard .................5-1 45 nr
19 Yale ....................4-1 35 16
20 Ohio State  .............5-3 28 20
Also receiving votes: Penn State, Drexel, Delaware, Princeton, Georgetown, Towson, Rutgers, Colgate

Quint Kessinich has us at No. 7, Stony Brook at No. 14, and says of Cornell: "The Big Red bounced back from their Virginia loss with an excellent Ivy League win at Yale. Cornell travels to Stony Brook on Tuesday in a huge game. Tewaaraton nominee Rob Pannell already has 32 points, but Cornell has been outscored 33-24 in the second half." Of Stony Brook: "The Seawolves were upset by Towson on March 19. Kevin Crowley is netting 4.4 points per game, but the complementary parts aren't clicking. An at-large bid hinges on a Cornell win." Thanks for putting the pressure on, Quint.

This, of course, is nonsense on Quint's part.  Last year Cornell lost two Ivy games (one of those to Dartmouth), to Syracuse, to Virginia, and to Princeton in the Ivy tournament and still received a #7 seed.  A loss to Stony Brook would certainly hurt, but I don't think it's make or break.

Pretty sure he's referring to Stony Brook's chance of an at-large bid.  This is their only other high profile game (the other being an 8-7 loss to Virginia early in the year).  Their schedule is very underwhelming from here on out.

You are not giving him much credit for writing clearly. Why would he say "a Cornell win" to refer to "a win over Cornell"? And does Stony Brook have even the slightest chance at an at-large bid even if they beat Cornell?

I agree it's poorly written, but I have little doubt that he's referring to Stony Brook's chances for an at-large bid, not Cornell's

Especially as it's in Quint's Stony Brook write-up.

My mistake was skimming past the "On Stony Brook". I thought that it was one long quote from a game preview.  In context, you are right that it clearly refers to Stony Brook's at-large hopes.

[RichH]

Driftng slightly

*headdesk*

[billhoward]

My mistake was skimming past the "On Stony Brook". I thought that it was one long quote from a game preview.  In context, you are right that it clearly refers to Stony Brook's at-large hopes.

Which if Quint is correct would now be nil.

[Jim Hyla]

My mistake was skimming past the "On Stony Brook". I thought that it was one long quote from a game preview.  In context, you are right that it clearly refers to Stony Brook's at-large hopes.

Which if Quint is correct would now be nil.

Oxymoron.

[Killer]

My mistake was skimming past the "On Stony Brook". I thought that it was one long quote from a game preview.  In context, you are right that it clearly refers to Stony Brook's at-large hopes.

Which if Quint is correct would now be nil.

Oxymoron.

Let's hope Quint is right on at least one thing.  If you watched Dartmouth-North Carolina last night, late in the game he noted that Cornell was leading Stony Brook 17-8, and he liked Cornell for Championship Weekend.

[billhoward]

My mistake was skimming past the "On Stony Brook". I thought that it was one long quote from a game preview.  In context, you are right that it clearly refers to Stony Brook's at-large hopes.

Which if Quint is correct would now be nil.

Oxymoron.

Let's hope Quint is right on at least one thing.  If you watched Dartmouth-North Carolina last night, late in the game he noted that Cornell was leading Stony Brook 17-8, and he liked Cornell for Championship Weekend.

For Cornell to get there on the field or to do a better job running hospitality and concessions?

Perhaps this is a form of woofing along the lines of a low-rent Sports Illustrated cover jinx.

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell moves up to #7--behind JHU now--in both coaches and media polls on March 28.  Quint has them at #6 just ahead of Hopkins.

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/03/28/mens-lacrosse-quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-6-analysis

[Jim Hyla]

Cornell moves up to #7--behind JHU now--in both coaches and media polls on March 28.  Quint has them at #6 just ahead of Hopkins.

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/03/28/mens-lacrosse-quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-6-analysis

Wow, 1 Hopkins win is enough I guess. This time I like Quint better.

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell moves up to #7--behind JHU now--in both coaches and media polls on March 28.  Quint has them at #6 just ahead of Hopkins.

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/03/28/mens-lacrosse-quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-6-analysis

Wow, 1 Hopkins win is enough I guess. This time I like Quint better.

laxpower gang did a good job, too: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42979

[ugarte]

I don't like Army's two wins this week. Too close. If they crater, it'll really hurt the Big Red.

[billhoward]

Cornell moves up to #7--behind JHU now--in both coaches and media polls on March 28.  Quint has them at #6 just ahead of Hopkins.

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-03-28

http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/03/28/mens-lacrosse-quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-6-analysis

Wow, 1 Hopkins win is enough I guess. This time I like Quint better.

laxpower gang did a good job, too: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42979

Two thoughtful comments on Cornell from the fan/voters:
>>> Two good looking wins this week against a worse than expected Stony Brook and a better than expected Penn team. They are coming together as the weather heats up just like they did every season under Tambroni. (VTD)
>>> They do not have the range of weapons they have had in the recent past. (OCanada)

[Al DeFlorio]

Two thoughtful comments on Cornell from the fan/voters:
>>> Two good looking wins this week against a worse than expected Stony Brook and a better than expected Penn team. They are coming together as the weather heats up just like they did every season under Tambroni. (VTD)
>>> They do not have the range of weapons they have had in the recent past. (OCanada)

The latter comment is true, especially if "recent past" refers to the Siebald/Glynn era, but they are still averaging 12.5 goals per game against the sixth or eighth strongest schedule (depending upon which of laxpower's SOS metrics you choose).

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I especially liked this comment in the review of Army:

Ranked above Cornell due to early season win but I do not think they could do it again if the game were played today.

But my biggest concern is (like last year) our inability to play well in the 3rd quarter.  What is with this team?

[TimV]

Bad oranges at halftime.   Solution: no halftime break. While the other team breaks, our #1 offense scrimmages our #1 defense.::nut::

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Bad oranges at halftime.   Solution: no halftime break. While the other team breaks, our #1 offense scrimmages our #1 defense.::nut::

Assuming one of them can win a face-off  ::whistle::