Lacrosse 2011 polls [5/2 #2 all polls]

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Wouldn't it be 7 autobids then?  Doesn't the NE Conference get one?

Not 'til 2013.
http://www.northeastconference.org/News/bryant/2010/9/27/mlax-bryantrecruits11.asp?path=bryant

As it stands now, by 2013, there will be 8 auto and 8 at larges. It gets mighty tight for at large spots after you include 2-4 ACC schools and Hopkins every year.

I didn't realize that was a new conference, too.  My bad.

[billhoward]

USILA coaches' poll has Cornell #3 again behind Notre Dame (all 10 first place votes) and Johns Hopkins. Media poll has Cornell climbing from 3 to 2.

Coaches: http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1usila/2011-04-25 (wasn't posted yet on www.usila.org)
Media:   http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2011-04-25

Of note:

Lacrosse Pollsters Love Johns Hopkins, What Else Is New?
Anytime you have a Johns Hopkins team that has two losses, one to Syracuse and one to a Princeton team with a losing record, you have to, HAVE TO, rank them higher than a one-loss Syracuse team and a two-loss Cornell team that just beat up that Syracuse team. You just have to. And to be honest, they should probably be ahead of undefeated Notre Dame as well. Why? Because, that's why. http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/4/18/2118229/lacrosse-pollsters-love-johns-hopkins-what-else-is-new (Syracuse sports blog)

1. Notre Dame
2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia, including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals [edit: so that's what they're called] in Ithaca.
3. Syracuse
4. Johns Hopkins
[He has Bucknell at 8, Penn at 13 (and playing Virginia Saturday), Yale at 16, Harvard at 18, and Michigan at 21.] http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/25/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-10-analysis

[ugarte]

1. Notre Dame
2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia, including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals

Man, I hope the Cornell pre-NCAA season doesn't end in the Ivy League semifinals.

[TimV]

2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia, including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals [edit: so that's what they're called] in Ithaca.
3. Syracuse
4. Johns Hopkins
[He has Bucknell at 8, Penn at 13 (and playing Virginia Saturday), Yale at 16, Harvard at 18, and Michigan at 21.] http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/25/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-10-analysis

Debacle?  Debacle!???  The (then) number 2 team in the country doesn't take the lead until the fourth quarter to win by two goals, and that's a debacle?  Come ON, mannnn...::wank::

[ugarte]

2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia,[/b] including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals [edit: so that's what they're called] in Ithaca.
3. Syracuse
4. Johns Hopkins
[He has Bucknell at 8, Penn at 13 (and playing Virginia Saturday), Yale at 16, Harvard at 18, and Michigan at 21.] http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/25/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-10-analysis

Debacle?  Debacle!???  The (then) number 2 team in the country doesn't take the lead until the fourth quarter to win by two goals, and that's a debacle?  Come ON, mannnn...::wank::

You didn't bold enough. Cornell had a halftime lead but was outscored 7-4 in the second half (and was outshot 26-13). I didn't see the game but you have to micron-thick skin to be offended by the word 'debacle' in that overwhelmingly positive blurb.

[TimV]

2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia,[/b] including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals [edit: so that's what they're called] in Ithaca.
3. Syracuse
4. Johns Hopkins
[He has Bucknell at 8, Penn at 13 (and playing Virginia Saturday), Yale at 16, Harvard at 18, and Michigan at 21.] http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/25/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-10-analysis

Debacle?  Debacle!???  The (then) number 2 team in the country doesn't take the lead until the fourth quarter to win by two goals, and that's a debacle?  Come ON, mannnn...::wank::

You didn't bold enough. Cornell had a halftime lead but was outscored 7-4 in the second half (and was outshot 26-13). I didn't see the game but you have to micron-thick skin to be offended by the word 'debacle' in that overwhelmingly positive blurb.

MICRON THICK SKIN!!! I DON'T HAVE NO MICRON THICK SKIN!!!  IT PISSES ME OFF HOW PEOPLE IN THIS PLACE THINK I HAVE MICRON THICK SKIN.  (::crazy:

But seriously, folks, that's how lacrosse is sometimes - there are runs - no surprise from a high-powered team trying to catch up.  And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems. Virginia is much better than their current ranking and record suggests, and the events of that second half IMHO really don't qualify as a debacle.  The last Virginia game at Schoellkopf, now THAT was a debacle, as was the Ohio State first round game in Ithaca that eliminated the 2008 (?) team.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

2. Cornell - The Big Red blasted Brown, 18-5, behind an offense that is firing on all cylinders. Rob Pannell is averaging 5.7 points per game. Cornell has reeled off seven straight victories after its second-half debacle against Virginia,[/b] including wins over Yale, Stony Brook, Penn and Syracuse. Cornell finishes the year with Princeton and then the Ivy League semifinals [edit: so that's what they're called] in Ithaca.
3. Syracuse
4. Johns Hopkins
[He has Bucknell at 8, Penn at 13 (and playing Virginia Saturday), Yale at 16, Harvard at 18, and Michigan at 21.] http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/04/25/quint-kessenichs-top-20-and-week-10-analysis

Debacle?  Debacle!???  The (then) number 2 team in the country doesn't take the lead until the fourth quarter to win by two goals, and that's a debacle?  Come ON, mannnn...::wank::

You didn't bold enough. Cornell had a halftime lead but was outscored 7-4 in the second half (and was outshot 26-13). I didn't see the game but you have to micron-thick skin to be offended by the word 'debacle' in that overwhelmingly positive blurb.

MICRON THICK SKIN!!! I DON'T HAVE NO MICRON THICK SKIN!!!  IT PISSES ME OFF HOW PEOPLE IN THIS PLACE THINK I HAVE MICRON THICK SKIN.  (::crazy:

But seriously, folks, that's how lacrosse is sometimes - there are runs - no surprise from a high-powered team trying to catch up.  And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems. Virginia is much better than their current ranking and record suggests, and the events of that second half IMHO really don't qualify as a debacle.  The last Virginia game at Schoellkopf, now THAT was a debacle, as was the Ohio State first round game in Ithaca that eliminated the 2008 (?) team.

I prefer to think about the Cornell - UVa game at Foxboro in 2009.   MMMMMMMMM!

[Ronald '09]

And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems.

You mean we found that answer?  Last time I checked, McMichael was still losing most of them against Brown.  Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

[Al DeFlorio]

Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

I would never have thought to equate 53% with "every."  Must be some kind of new math.

[Towerroad]

Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

I would never have thought to equate 53% with "every."  Must be some kind of new math.

Clearly, every time we lose the ball we lose the face off ergo 53% is 100%

[Al DeFlorio]

Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

I would never have thought to equate 53% with "every."  Must be some kind of new math.

Clearly, every time we lose the ball we lose the face off ergo 53% is 100%

Huh?

[Towerroad]

Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

I would never have thought to equate 53% with "every."  Must be some kind of new math.

Clearly, every time we lose the ball we lose the face off ergo 53% is 100%

Huh?

Highly advanced politically correct math. Input the desired output and the supporting equation is instantly expressed. Logic not required.

[billhoward]

And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems.

You mean we found that answer?  Last time I checked, McMichael was still losing most of them against Brown.  Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

Guy on our HS team this week won 20x21 faceoffs. THAT changes the complexion of a game.

[Swampy]

And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems.

You mean we found that answer?  Last time I checked, McMichael was still losing most of them against Brown.  Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

Guy on our HS team this week won 20x21 faceoffs. THAT changes the complexion of a game.

I assume you've sent the guy's name to DeLuca by now.

[billhoward]

And, at that time we were still trying to find an answer to our faceoff problems.

You mean we found that answer?  Last time I checked, McMichael was still losing most of them against Brown.  Or are you saying we were still trying to figure out how to deal with losing every faceoff?

Guy on our HS team this week won 20x21 faceoffs. THAT changes the complexion of a game.

I assume you've sent the guy's name to DeLuca by now.

He takes the faceoff then scoots off the field because he's a magician at the faceoff spot but his lax skills are still building. Our HS did send Chris Wojcik to Harvard; now he's the coach. Most of our good HS players go D3 at Franklin & Marshall, Roanoke, Bates, Mary Washington. In NJ, unless you have a super-strong youth program run by gung-ho ex-players and an outstanding HS coach, many of the good ones gravitate to the top prep schools such as Delbarton. In general Westfield HS is not in league with Delbarton; I think that final was 13-5. Delbarton had 3 players I know of from our town; one of them, Jack Molloy, is heading to Cornell for lax. On the ice hockey side, Cornell is getting an early-decision freshman woman who played boys' ice hockey here but it's a huge jump to the Cornell woman's team so she's going to major in being smart. Nothing wrong with that.