general 2010-2011 basketball season thread

[phillysportsfan]

a bit of an overreaction but if we cant beat UNH next week then we probably will finish 8th

[mountainred]

Philly, your "overreaction" is understandable; the Binghamton and Bucknell losses were very disappointing.  Right now, I'd be pleased with the way the guys turned their season around if they finish 7-7 in the league.

[phillysportsfan]

dont think it was an overreaction at this point

another day, another loss, originally I was hoping we would get to .500 by the end of the season but it aint happening, this team would be lucky to reach 10 wins at this point, 8th place Ivy is a real possibility, what a difference a year makes

The offense was finally somewhat fluid, Osgood showed some of the offensive production from the Albany/Hall games, Peck had another good game, but at the end of the game Courtney blew it
Sure Ferry and Groebe took terrible shots but how Courtney not call a timeout when we are down by 3 with the ball, 30s left to setup a play. Instead we immediately rush a 3, no timeout. Then after UNH gives us a gift by missing 2 free throws, we airball a 3 immediately, fine Courtney dont call a timeout the first time but how after seeing the team rush a shot the first time do you not call a timeout the 2nd time. What were you thinking? This team has failed to execute in crunch time over and over again, call a timeout and setup a play, this is going to be a long year and may be a long 3-4 years

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell shoots 64% overall, including 18 in a row, and 71% on treys, to beat Wofford 86-80

[scoop85]

Cornell shoots 64% overall, including 18 in a row, and 71% on treys, to beat Wofford 86-80

But oddly only went 11-21 from the line, and missed a number of FTs down the stretch that allowed Wofford to have a chance.

[Trotsky]

Cornell shoots 64% overall, including 18 in a row, and 71% on treys, to beat Wofford 86-80

Wow.  They were about 15 behind at one point, right (vague recollection from hockey broadcast)?

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell shoots 64% overall, including 18 in a row, and 71% on treys, to beat Wofford 86-80

Wow.  They were about 15 behind at one point, right (vague recollection from hockey broadcast)?

No.  They were down big in the first half to UNH the day before, when they shot 40% overall and 26% treys, but came back only to lose by two.

[mountainred]

This was a 17 point lead with 11 minutes and change to go, that was whittled to four in the last minute.  The win is great, but it's hard to get too excited when you win by six after hitting over 70% of your three-pointers.  Nice to to have the skill to do that, but it's not happening very often (if again this season),

The offense is just far too dependent on the three point shot, which leads to long, painful scoring slumps.

[mountainred]

Philly, I wouldn't throw the towel in on Courtney just yet.  I won't defend our end of game performance -- it's been brutal -- but it's Courtney's first year in the big chair.  He can learn and manage late game situations better down the road.  It's like watching a freshman point guard make ill-advised passes:  if he improves, you give him more playing time; if he's still making those mistakes as a junior or senior, you move on.  But, unless something dramatic happens, this season is not going to be featured prominently on Coach C's resume.

Based on what Courtney said when he was hired, I can't imagine we have the personnel to run what he wants to run.  I think he's trying to adapt as best he can, but he just doesn't have the experience to do it.  And this team has enough flawed players to challenge someone as experienced as Coach D.

[ugarte]

This year has to be considered a write-off. The Sweet 16 team is gone gone gone. 4 of those seniors are off playing professionally somewhere. Let that sink in. The drop off from 2009-10 to 2010-11 was going to be huge. Add in the switch from an offense-minded coach to a defense-minded coach, who is playing three years of Donahue-system recruits, and there are going to be more than just growing pains.

If the 2011 team is a hangover from the glory of 2010, I can live with that. I want to give Courtney a few years to establish a program instead of acting like some entitled asshole who roots for, say, Kentucky and calls for the coach's head whenever the team loses three in a row.

[Al DeFlorio]

This year has to be considered a write-off. The Sweet 16 team is gone gone gone. 4 of those seniors are off playing professionally somewhere. Let that sink in. The drop off from 2009-10 to 2010-11 was going to be huge. Add in the switch from an offense-minded coach to a defense-minded coach, who is playing three years of Donahue-system recruits, and there are going to be more than just growing pains.

If the 2011 team is a hangover from the glory of 2010, I can live with that. I want to give Courtney a few years to establish a program instead of acting like some entitled asshole who roots for, say, Kentucky and calls for the coach's head whenever the team loses three in a row.

Well said.  Donahue's first few Cornell seasons were no masterpieces, either (7-20, 5-22, 9-18).

[Trotsky]

instead of acting like some entitled asshole who roots for, say, Cornell hockey and calls for the coach's head whenever the team loses three in a row.

FYP ;-)

[scoop85]

I saw parts of BC's dismantling of South Carolina yesterday (aside:  there was no one in S.C.'s arena for the game).  It was a vintage Donahue-type performance -- great ball movement with lots of wide-open 3's.  BC has better overall athleticism than last year's Cornell team, but doesn't have a Foote-like big man.  They are likely not a top-20 team, but certainly will be competitive in what looks like a fairly mediocre ACC (except for Duke).

[phillysportsfan]

This year has to be considered a write-off. The Sweet 16 team is gone gone gone. 4 of those seniors are off playing professionally somewhere. Let that sink in. The drop off from 2009-10 to 2010-11 was going to be huge. Add in the switch from an offense-minded coach to a defense-minded coach, who is playing three years of Donahue-system recruits, and there are going to be more than just growing pains.

If the 2011 team is a hangover from the glory of 2010, I can live with that. I want to give Courtney a few years to establish a program instead of acting like some entitled asshole who roots for, say, Kentucky and calls for the coach's head whenever the team loses three in a row.

I am not calling for Courtney's head, give him 5 years to get his first recruit class all the way through, I am just saying he has not managed end game situations well especially that UNH game

I expected us to play better that we have this year, beating the Bonnies, UNH, Binghamton, and maybe Lehigh but probably overrated the current talent of this team at the beginning of the season, at least Peck has seemed to find his offensive groove, he should be a monster the next 2 years

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell shoots 64% overall, including 18 in a row, and 71% on treys, to beat Wofford 86-80

Just remembered that Wofford gave Wisconsin a tough first-round game in last year's NCAA tournament, losing 53-49.