general 2010-2011 basketball season thread

Started by phillysportsfan, November 17, 2010, 04:28:21 PM

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phillysportsfan

They are raising the Sweet 16 banner tonight, should be good

Otherwise two winnable games this week especially since we are home, sounds like Wrobo might play which would be a big boost

Al DeFlorio

19-3 second half run takes BU from 28-35 down to a 47-38 lead.  11-point second half lead blown against St. Bonnie a week ago.  Lot of learning still to be done.

Edit:  And Cornell shooting gets hot while BU turnovers mount, and Cornell comes back and it's 50-49 BU.

Edit 2:  Cornell trails by one with 52.6 seconds left after Ferry's sixth three.

Edit 3:  BU makes a parade of free throws to win 66-61.  BU guard Darryl Partin scores 30 of BU's 46 second half points.
Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Cornell's 2-4 record is one blowout win, one blowout loss, and 1-4 in games of 5 points or less.

phillysportsfan

Yeah and probably add two more blowout losses to that with 2 tough games this week against Syracuse and Minn

Jordan 04

Tonight's game @ Minnesota can be found on the Big Ten Network (472-476 on TWC in NYC) at 8 PM.  You may find yourself getting this channel if - for hockey games - you've previously ordered the package which includes CBS College Sports.

Jordan 04

Cornell hangs tough for a while @ Minnesota, but with a 9-0 run by Minnesota with about 10 mins left, and them being in the bonus the rest of the way, it looks like this one's just about over.

Edit: Perhaps I spoke too soon. Down 2 with 6 mins to play. Win or lose, a strong, strong effort from the team tonight.

Jordan 04

Final score: Minnesota 71, Cornell 66, in a game much closer than the score indicates. A few observations from the only action I've seen this year:

- Minnesota was well schooled in realizing that Cornell was going to always look pass-first off of dribble penetration. They had their arms in passing lanes and tipped/intercepted an awful lot kick-out passes.

- If he isn't already, Errick Peck is going to be a heckuva player.

- I sure hope Courtney is focused on recruiting size. Obviously the Big 10 is a different level of competition than the Ivy League, but it was men among boy on the interior against Minnesota.

- Did I really hear the play-by-play announcer say Adam Wire is believed to have "legitimate opportunities to be looked at by NFL teams" after his Ivy league basketball days are over?

ugarte

Quote from: Jordan 04- Did I really hear the play-by-play announcer say Adam Wire is believed to have "legitimate opportunities to be looked at by NFL teams" after his Ivy league basketball days are over?
I didn't listen to the game, so I can't tell if your hearing is right, but he is about the same size as Tony Gonzalez, a bit smaller than Antonio Gates and Jimmy Graham, the three basketball-to-Tight End conversions that I know about.

Did he play football in high school? (Doesn't look like it, so take the rest with a grain of salt...) If so, he is the right size to be considered someone that could bulk up again after college to play TE in the NFL.

phillysportsfan

Quote from: Jordan 04Final score: Minnesota 71, Cornell 66, in a game much closer than the score indicates. A few observations from the only action I've seen this year:

- Minnesota was well schooled in realizing that Cornell was going to always look pass-first off of dribble penetration. They had their arms in passing lanes and tipped/intercepted an awful lot kick-out passes.

- If he isn't already, Errick Peck is going to be a heckuva player.

- I sure hope Courtney is focused on recruiting size. Obviously the Big 10 is a different level of competition than the Ivy League, but it was men among boy on the interior against Minnesota.

- Did I really hear the play-by-play announcer say Adam Wire is believed to have "legitimate opportunities to be looked at by NFL teams" after his Ivy league basketball days are over?

Our recruiting class for next year so far is:
Dave LaMore C 6-10 Whitmore Lake MI Dexter HS
Deion Giddens C 6-9 Surprise AZ Willow Canyon HS
Shonn Miller G/F 6-6 Cleveland OH St. Ignatius HS
Galal Cancer G 6-2 Albany NY Christian Brothers HS
Devin Cherry G 6-3 Meridian MS HS

Lamore probably could contribute more immediately, Giddens is more of a project, hasnt played basketball for too long but has real high potential, if he does the football team could have really used him the last 4 years

The Wire quote really surprised me, announcers often say Wire looks like a tight end but I have never in 4 years heard someone say he has NFL TE potetial

Peck has shown flashes of brilliance the last 2 years, has a great ability to drive to the basket but over the last 2 years has gotten into foul trouble and has had difficulty finishing
The last 2 games, Cuse and Minn Peck has played really well after playing terrible every other game this year

This quote from Peck sort of alarmed me though:
"I think I'm a product of the hard work I put in," he said. "Unfortunately I hadn't been working hard---just doing the bare minimum instead of putting in the extra work. That's not me. I just have to keep working hard and go out and enjoy the whole experience of playing Division 1 basketball."

If you make a commitment to play DI basketball you got to put the extra time in, otherwise you are not going to compete, why would he not be putting the extra hard work in and second of all why admit this?

billhoward

Maybe the work Peck needs to put in is better scripting of his quoted material.

Listening to the Cornell-Minnesota basketball game on audio feed was more enjoyable than either of the hockey games I saw this weekend. Playing even with Minnesota suggests this team is already rebuilding this year not just for a couple years down the road. Our announcers got a little hysterical about all the fouls Cornell committed and couldn't get a sense of whether (as seemed implied) the refs weren't giving the visiting Ivy League scholars a fair break, or if Cornell had to play whack-a-golden-mole to stay in contention. Maybe it was the disadvantage of playing on an Olympic size court? Or was that the other sport?

Jordan 04

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jordan 04- Did I really hear the play-by-play announcer say Adam Wire is believed to have "legitimate opportunities to be looked at by NFL teams" after his Ivy league basketball days are over?
I didn't listen to the game, so I can't tell if your hearing is right, but he is about the same size as Tony Gonzalez, a bit smaller than Antonio Gates and Jimmy Graham, the three basketball-to-Tight End conversions that I know about.

Did he play football in high school? (Doesn't look like it, so take the rest with a grain of salt...) If so, he is the right size to be considered someone that could bulk up again after college to play TE in the NFL.

My "Did I hear correctly?" was rhetorical, since I re-wound and listened to it again at the time and quoted the announcer verbatim. I would have assumed that, even if he was the perfect size/build, believing he has a shot at the NFL after never playing a down of college football is an awful big leap of faith.

Quote from: phillysportsfanThis quote from Peck sort of alarmed me though:
"I think I'm a product of the hard work I put in," he said. "Unfortunately I hadn't been working hard---just doing the bare minimum instead of putting in the extra work. That's not me. I just have to keep working hard and go out and enjoy the whole experience of playing Division 1 basketball."

If you make a commitment to play DI basketball you got to put the extra time in, otherwise you are not going to compete, why would he not be putting the extra hard work in and second of all why admit this?

I can't speak for why he wasn't putting in extra hard work, but I don't think this is an unusual admission from player, especially those on the ascent. The most public example recently has been Michael Vick.  In every interview this season, I've heard him make mention of the fact that he wasn't the hardest worker with the Falcons, and he didn't do much beyond what was required in terms of work and practice.

I'm sure Peck wouldn't admit to prior laziness if he, and more importantly, his coach, didn't think that was squarely in the past.

Quote from: billhowardOur announcers got a little hysterical about all the fouls Cornell committed and couldn't get a sense of whether (as seemed implied) the refs weren't giving the visiting Ivy League scholars a fair break, or if Cornell had to play whack-a-golden-mole to stay in contention.

I thought the refereeing was perfectly fair; never at any point during the game did I think twice about the refs, usually an indication they're doing a good job.  If anything, I thought we got the better of some out-of-bounds calls which in real time seemed to favor Minnesota, but went our way (to the vocal dismay of the crowd). And given how poorly Minnesota was shooting from the line, I think them being in the bonus for some much game time helped, not hindered, us. I was much more comfortable with them missing 40% of their free throws than I would have been with them having additional opportunities to dominate us in the pain for easy 2's.

Al DeFlorio

Binghamton 70, Cornell 68 after Cornell blows a late-first-half 16-point lead.
Al DeFlorio '65

phillysportsfan

Quote from: Al DeFlorioBinghamton 70, Cornell 68 after Cornell blows a late-first-half 16-point lead.

really inexcusable loss, just terrible shot selection, well on our way to a bottom 4 Ivy finish, more likely bottom 3

phillysportsfan

another day another loss, this team is terrible, would not be surprised to see us finish 8th in the league

Roy 82

Please do not hold back. Tell us how you really feel.