Just out......#25 in basketball

[Tcl123]

::banana::

[phillysportsfan]

Yeah thats great and #27 in the AP poll

[Willy '06]

!

[JasonN95]

ESPN's Bubble Watch has Cornell as an at large contender: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=99

[French Rage]

ESPN's Bubble Watch has Cornell as an at large contender: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=99

And Bracketology has us as a #9 seed playing Kal.

[ugarte]

ESPN's Bubble Watch has Cornell as an at large contender: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=99

Which is true right up until we lose two Ivy games. It is a mirage. Our three biggest OOC wins - Alabama, St. John's and UMass - are all against teams that aren't even on the bubble, and Seton Hall is only barely on the bubble.

I stand by what I said about Seton Hall at the time but philly was apparently right about them.

[rouls78]

This is great!!!!  I have faith in this team, with the experience and caliber of play, I don't think anyone in the NCAAs would look forward to playing the RED!  Keep on winning and a few losses by other bubble teams, we could be seeded in the single digits higher than 9.  GO BIG RED!

[Jim Hyla]

Polls are polls and nothing more. Here's a copy of my post about the hockey poll:

Re: 2/1 POLL!
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com) [ PM ]
Date: February 01, 2010 04:07PM

    Kyle Rose

        Oat

        5   Cornell      12-5-3   718   8
        9   North Dakota   13-10-5   581   4

         

    Okay, I'm just going to take a single example pairing here and wonder how the voters could possibly think Cornell is a better team that North Dakota. Based on what I saw at Lynah a week ago, NoDak was clearly the better team (which is scary considering how young they are). Now, of course any ranking is a total order that is going to in some cases violate a higher-ranked team's propensity for losing to a particular lower-ranked team because of style of play, individual matchups, etc., but I'm having a hard time thinking of even a single team that Cornell would have a higher probability of beating than NoDak. Okay, maybe Wisconsin.

My response:    

Come on, it's easy to understand. ND was 4, we were 8 after our series. Then they lose twice to number 2 (Denver) and we beat two unranked teams. So we're obviously the better team. ::stupid::(meaning the polls, not you.)

 
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[Swampy]

How cool is this: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20100205? We no longer have to click through to Ivy to see the match up.::wow::

[KeithK]

Hopefully we will now get a little demonstration of poll dynamics. If we keep winning our league games will we stick in the polls?  Will we rise? Or will the pollsters become interested in some big conference team that starts winning their league games and take our spot? I'm curious.

[RichH]

Hopefully we will now get a little demonstration of poll dynamics. If we keep winning our league games will we stick in the polls?  Will we rise? Or will the pollsters become interested in some big conference team that starts winning their league games and take our spot? I'm curious.

It's a good question.  My guess is that CU will most likely have 2 more weekends where we get anywhere close to the media mention that we got this weekend.  #1 is obviously the @ Harvard game.  #2 is when the Ivy champ is crowned, as it will be the first auto-bid in the nation.  If it's us, there will be a lot of "they will be an extremely dangerous draw" and get voter attention once again.  If it's not us, I anticipate that it'll be a down-to-the-wire situation, and that will start a very big (for us) "at-large bid" campaign.

So I expect 2 more "peaks" in the polls.

[KeithK]

Hopefully we will now get a little demonstration of poll dynamics. If we keep winning our league games will we stick in the polls?  Will we rise? Or will the pollsters become interested in some big conference team that starts winning their league games and take our spot? I'm curious.

It's a good question.  My guess is that CU will most likely have 2 more weekends where we get anywhere close to the media mention that we got this weekend.  #1 is obviously the @ Harvard game.  #2 is when the Ivy champ is crowned, as it will be the first auto-bid in the nation.  If it's us, there will be a lot of "they will be an extremely dangerous draw" and get voter attention once again.  If it's not us, I anticipate that it'll be a down-to-the-wire situation, and that will start a very big (for us) "at-large bid" campaign.

So I expect 2 more "peaks" in the polls.

Is there any evidence that teams surge in the polls when they clinch an auto-bid?  I think that's probably an unanswerable question because 1) almost every other autobid is awarded in the same weekend and 2) Ivy teams are very rarely in the polls.

[YankeeLobo]

I think it will depend a lot on how badly we beat down our opponents.  A big reason we were in the polls this week is because we ANNIHILATED Harvard, who was regarded nationally as a good team.  If we continue crushing teams in the league and not win squeakers against the Yale's and Brown's of the league, we'll stay where we are at the very worst.

If voters paid attention to RPI, I think we'd have a good chance of dropping but I highly doubt any voters pay attention to those numbers mid-season, otherwise the polls would look much different than they currently do.

[Trotsky]

I think it will depend a lot on how badly we beat down our opponents.  A big reason we were in the polls this week is because we ANNIHILATED Harvard, who was regarded nationally as a good team.  If we continue crushing teams in the league and not win squeakers against the Yale's and Brown's of the league, we'll stay where we are at the very worst.

That's double edged, though, since if they keep beating teams by 40 it will underline the perceived weakness of the league.

I'm assuming as soon as Cornell loses a conference game they drop from the top 25, never to return in our lifetimes.  So the question is, what happens if they win out?  It will probably be an artifact of how the teams 4 slots above/below them do each week.  A week where everybody 21-29 wins probably means Cornell will drop one or two slots, while a week where a bunch of those teams lose means Cornell could tick up one or two.

[scoop85]

I think it will depend a lot on how badly we beat down our opponents.  A big reason we were in the polls this week is because we ANNIHILATED Harvard, who was regarded nationally as a good team.  If we continue crushing teams in the league and not win squeakers against the Yale's and Brown's of the league, we'll stay where we are at the very worst.

That's double edged, though, since if they keep beating teams by 40 it will underline the perceived weakness of the league.

I'm assuming as soon as Cornell loses a conference game they drop from the top 25, never to return in our lifetimes.  So the question is, what happens if they win out?  It will probably be an artifact of how the teams 4 slots above/below them do each week.  A week where everybody 21-29 wins probably means Cornell will drop one or two slots, while a week where a bunch of those teams lose means Cornell could tick up one or two.

I think as long as Cornell keeps winning, they'll stay in the top 25 (coaches' poll, at least) because of the increasingly gaudy overall record. regardless of any other teams' results.