Cornell-BU @ MSG postgame

[Jim Hyla]

Beeeej, here's her post.

I'm pretty new here and don't know if this will work - let me know if I should do something differently!

Wall Street Journal article on the BU-BC rivalary:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125971611923171991.html#mod=todays_us_nonsub_page_one

And the accompanying video:
http://online.wsj.com/video/bu-vs-bc-a-beantown-rivalry-on-ice/C5A9E5ED-01A2-4A1B-A3F6-4BE09139691D.html

She obviously didn't know exactly what to do, and was asking for help. I can understand why she'd be confused since her possibilities were to post on:

"Men's Hockey", "Discussions about the Cornell men's hockey team" or

"Other Sports", "Discussions about sports other than men's hockey".

So when she's posting, which is appropriate, Cornell men's hockey or sports other than men's hockey?::pop::

Maybe "John Spencer is Dead", but not all would see it.

Rather than just give a terse "... but what does it have to do with Cornell hockey?", why not tell her what to do. That would help a new poster, who obviously cares to do it correctly.**]

Well, then, my answer would've been "Post it on USCHO."

Beeeej,
I can't believe you're being so hard on this woman. Would you do the same if it was a hockey parent. I know it was not entirely appropriate for the forum thread, but after all she is a students mom and has never done this before and from her post maybe doesn't even know anything about USCHO. Can't we try and enlarge our group of Lynah Faithful and nicely accept them for what they can do and help them grow into their role?

God knows here are a lot of things posted here that have nothing to do with Cornell hockey, I'll bet you can find something in 1/2 of the threads. The Jerk response comes to mind. We accept that because it's an inside joke, but it sure doesn't have anything to do with the thread it's in, nor does it add to our knowledge.

I, for one, am happy she posted and have invited her to join me at a game.

[Beeeej]

In what way am I being "so hard on" her?  I don't think a post on the North Dakota/Denver rivalry would be appropriate even though we're playing NoDak this year; I would ask in the same way, what does it have to do with Cornell hockey?  If a Cornell hockey parent posted something here that wasn't relevant to Cornell hockey, I'd ask the same question.

In addition, you're not privy to the conversation I've had with this woman via PM. If I was hard on her in public, I think I made it clear in private that I meant nothing personal or individual.  And if she attends a game with you, I'll happily buy her a hot cocoa.

Anyway, the culture of how we deal with each other on this board in good humor ("Jerk") has nothing to do with what topics are appropriate in the first place.  And yes, we talk about other schools, but largely to the extent that they affect Cornell, not just because they happen to have college hockey programs.  I don't think it's that absurd to see a line between posts about the BU/Cornell game and posts about a BU/BC rivalry.  There's already a college hockey discussion board, and it's called USCHO.

(Note, again, that I didn't delete the post.  I just don't think it's out of line for me to discourage imitators.)

[DeltaOne81]

I really don't think you're being at all fair, Beeeej. I know you're attempting to be nice about it, but still doesn't make you correct.

Why? The following is the list of threads in the last 5 pages that have really nothing to do with Cornell men's hockey:

• The Gentrification of North Dakota - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,149733
• forum issues - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,149350
• Cops pull tasers on UMD player during game - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,149549
• CCHA Denies UAH - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,147352
• Incredibly Funny Flamefest on USCHO - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,148363
• 2010 Frozen Four tickets - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,138556
• Clarkson hockey players face sex charges - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,147539
• Entry music - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,147720
• An impending early departure - http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,147276

And that's entire topics, not single posts within a thread. I can't imagine how many dozens of those we could find around here. Should we discourage posting out out-of-town scores that don't at least involve an ECAC team or one of our season opponents?

I read a few forums where the mods jump in if something isn't at least 99% on topic. It sucks, because it shuts down many interesting conversations that really are within the realm of interest of all involved.

It's really long since established that this forum is the appropriate place for topics on men's college hockey, even if it doesn't involve Cornell. It might be a problem if that became the majority of the threads, but one of every dozen or every score or so hasn't been a problem and it's been that way for years. I kind've feel there's a "use it or lose it" copyright-law-style principal at play here. If you want to enforce something, it has to be done consistently & regularly. We can't have years of all sorts of mens-but-not-Cornell hockey topics and then call out one post for not being about Cornell.

[BCrespi]

I must say that I had an initial negative (I think that word is even too strong) reaction to the post.  It was not that I didn't want to read it, but was just expecting more Cornell-BU analysis and had a "who cares?" reaction when I saw the contents.  I would have been happy to see this post as its own topic in the Cornell Mens Hockey forum or Other Sports and simply was surprised that it did not have to deal with Cornell-BU.  The post is most certainly valuable, just potentially misplaced.

[Beeeej]

You raise some very valid points.  Thank you for doing so cogently and calmly.  :-)

[andyw2100]

You raise some very valid points.  Thank you for doing so cogently and calmly.  :-)

But what does this have to do with Cornell Hockey? (Sorry. Couldn't resist!)

[Dpperk29]

You raise some very valid points.  Thank you for doing so cogently and calmly.  :-)

But what does this have to do with Cornell Hockey? (Sorry. Couldn't resist!)

I am sure you could PM him for details

[billhoward]

eLynah has manageable size, so if a post on the BC-BU rivalry appears in Cornell men's hockey rather than other sports, it's no big deal.

[SirJW]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

[statenaurora]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

Nice, but will there be cup holders?

[ScrewBU]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

Nice, but will there be cup holders?

What does this have to do with Cornell hockey?

[Rosey]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

Nice, but will there be cup holders?

What does this have to do with Cornell hockey?

PM me for details.

[jtwcornell91]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

Nice, but will there be cup holders?

What does this have to do with Cornell hockey?

PM me for details.

Jerk. ::rolleyes::

[David Harding]

MSG renovation details;
http://www.msg.com/renovation/

I don't see any signs that the escalator capacity will be increased.  :-/
The "Fact Sheet" says the lower bowl work is expected to be ready for when we return in 2011.  Upper bowl work ready for the following season.  
It says "Improved upper bowl sightlines that put patrons 17.5 degrees closer to the action," whatever that means.

[Al DeFlorio]

It says "Improved upper bowl sightlines that put patrons 17.5 degrees closer to the action," whatever that means.

Maybe it means they won't have to watch on the jumbotron.