Cornell 3 BU 3 (Final)

Started by mhand06, November 28, 2009, 08:27:37 PM

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Scersk '97

I concur that, from what I could see on Redcast, that third goal looked pretty sketchy.  Anyone have a good angle on it?  (Besides Ritchie?)

And however braindead B Nash's penalty was in the late third, the crosscheck and slash by the BU player that came before it were also pretty damn obvious.  There was some nasty stuff from BU going quite uncalled in the final frame.

Lauren '06

The only thing I could determine from the Redcast on that third goal was that the ref behind the net was pointing emphatically at it, so there was no question at least in his mind.

Scersk '97

Quote from: Scersk '97Anyone have a good angle on it?

Quote from: Lauren '06The only thing I could determine from the Redcast on that third goal was that the ref behind the net was pointing emphatically at it, so there was no question at least in his mind.

Lauren, I meant that I'd like to hear from anyone who was at the game and was not that particular ref, i.e., I would like to know whether Ritchie should've blown the play dead.  Yes, he obviously thought he had the right angle, but trickle out plays like that are often for crap.

ajh258

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Scersk '97Anyone have a good angle on it?

Quote from: Lauren '06The only thing I could determine from the Redcast on that third goal was that the ref behind the net was pointing emphatically at it, so there was no question at least in his mind.

Lauren, I meant that I'd like to hear from anyone who was at the game and was not that particular ref, i.e., I would like to know whether Ritchie should've blown the play dead.  Yes, he obviously thought he had the right angle, but trickle out plays like that are often for crap.

I sat in section 336 so I was right behind our team and had a good view. I did see a stick going into scriven's location after he stopped the puck. The goal was very questionable.
 
I am not sure if the puck came to a full stop and maybe that's why Ritchie called in a goal. However, the puck did slow down considerably and it kinda rolled into the goal after the stop so I do kinda question the ref's call.

Jacob '06

I may be entirely insane, but I'm pretty sure I heard Ritchie blow the whistle before the puck squirted out and past the line, and I was sitting right behind the net. Either way, the puck was pretty well invisible underneath Scrivens before it squirted through, and the BU player definitely got it through by pushing Scrivens in some manner.

ugarte

If I was going to blame anyone for blowing the late lead I'd have to say "the people in Section 415 that started Winning Team/Losing Team with 4 minutes left in the game." 20 seconds later Cornell took the first of a number of bad penalties essentially guaranteeing a BU goal.

Scersk '97

Quote from: ugarteIf I was going to blame anyone for blowing the late lead I'd have to say "the people in Section 415 that started Winning Team/Losing Team with 4 minutes left in the game."

Wow, that's dumb.  Everyone knows that "winning team, losing team" is only done with [Cornell goals - Opponent goals - 1] minute(s) left.

sah67

As far as B Nash, I was impressed by his backhand slapshot...too bad he ripped it past Scrivens and not the BU goalie.

Lenny 01

I was sitting behind the goal.  I thought I heard a whistle too (maybe the other ref?), with the ref waving his arms.  I think that what Cornell was arguing afterward.  However, if he blew, you would think they would reconcile that.

ebilmes

Third goal seemed to be a crease violation when they showed the replay at MSG. But as others have said, Ritchie had no doubt that it was a goal. I question why it would not have been reviewed, since either the crease violation or the whistle would have negated the goal.

Tie which felt like a loss. Stupid mental errors and zero clean goals for BU.

scoop85

After we took the 2-0 lead, BU had better puck possession most of the game.  Scrivens was outstanding, but for the shortie.  We didn't get enough rubber on the BU sieve, who was shaky.  Nice to see that the team didn't get too down after they tied it up, and in fact we had the better opportunities in OT. I really thought Collins was going to get one on the two-on-one.

As far as the tying goal, 19 out of 20 times you see that play blown dead.

DeltaOne81

To be fair, the ref(s?) were letting the players jam at the goalie's all game long. I don't like it, but at least they were consistent, it was around the 20th time that they jammed for multiple seconds with no whistle.

Oat

Quote from: scoop85As far as the tying goal, 19 out of 20 times you see that play blown dead.


Perhaps the referee actually had sight of the puck the whole time.  From the blue line, it looked like the BU guy really got his stick up in Scrivens' butt and dug it out.  Did Scrivens have it or did he not?  Can anyone confirm?
B.S.'06, M.Eng.'07

Oat

Quote from: DeltaOne81To be fair, the ref(s?) were letting the players jam at the goalie's all game long. I don't like it, but at least they were consistent, it was around the 20th time that they jammed for multiple seconds with no whistle.


I thought a few cornell penalties early in the third period were questionable.
B.S.'06, M.Eng.'07

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ebilmesThird goal seemed to be a crease violation when they showed the replay at MSG. But as others have said, Ritchie had no doubt that it was a goal. I question why it would not have been reviewed, since either the crease violation or the whistle would have negated the goal.

Tie which felt like a loss. Stupid mental errors and zero clean goals for BU.
I don't think they were in the crease until after the puck, therefore OK. The question of whether Scrivens had the puck and they pushed it away is another question. Scrivens didn't charge the ref as if he said he had it, so I suspect he didn't know where it was and it was still visible in front and BU poked it in. Afterward Scrivens did look behind him.
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