Cornell #7 in USA Today Poll

[Beeeej]

[quote ugarte][quote TimV][quote Josh '99][quote billhoward]Cornell seems to be unlucky in Albany.[/quote]There have been seven ECAC tourneys played in Albany; Cornell has won two of them.  I have no complaints about winning the tourney ~30% of the time.[/quote]

I'm with Josh. I thought our luck was pretty damn good against Princeton in the semis last March.[/quote]
I don't even think we've been particularly unlucky. Is there a game that we lost that we should have won? I don't mean games where we lost as the higher seeded team, but games where we were the better team that day but lost due to bad bounces or a cheap penalty. (Maybe 2002; I don't remember the game well enough.) In fact, I think the Harvard icing that set up the 2003 miracle was about the luckiest thing to happen since the tournament moved to Albany.[/quote]

2002 was the last tourney in Lake Placid; it's been in Albany from 2003 on.

[ugarte]

[quote Beeeej][quote ugarte][quote TimV][quote Josh '99][quote billhoward]Cornell seems to be unlucky in Albany.[/quote]There have been seven ECAC tourneys played in Albany; Cornell has won two of them.  I have no complaints about winning the tourney ~30% of the time.[/quote]

I'm with Josh. I thought our luck was pretty damn good against Princeton in the semis last March.[/quote]
I don't even think we've been particularly unlucky. Is there a game that we lost that we should have won? I don't mean games where we lost as the higher seeded team, but games where we were the better team that day but lost due to bad bounces or a cheap penalty. (Maybe 2002; I don't remember the game well enough.) In fact, I think the Harvard icing that set up the 2003 miracle was about the luckiest thing to happen since the tournament moved to Albany.[/quote]

2002 was the last tourney in Lake Placid; it's been in Albany from 2003 on.[/quote]
That's right. Now I remember watching the 2002 game at the Park Avenue CC.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote ugarte][quote Beeeej][quote ugarte][quote TimV][quote Josh '99][quote billhoward]Cornell seems to be unlucky in Albany.[/quote]There have been seven ECAC tourneys played in Albany; Cornell has won two of them.  I have no complaints about winning the tourney ~30% of the time.[/quote]

I'm with Josh. I thought our luck was pretty damn good against Princeton in the semis last March.[/quote]
I don't even think we've been particularly unlucky. Is there a game that we lost that we should have won? I don't mean games where we lost as the higher seeded team, but games where we were the better team that day but lost due to bad bounces or a cheap penalty. (Maybe 2002; I don't remember the game well enough.) In fact, I think the Harvard icing that set up the 2003 miracle was about the luckiest thing to happen since the tournament moved to Albany.[/quote]

2002 was the last tourney in Lake Placid; it's been in Albany from 2003 on.[/quote]
That's right. Now I remember watching the 2002 game at the Park Avenue CC.[/quote]

I wish I could forget that game.

[Give My Regards]

[quote Josh '99]There have been seven ECAC tourneys played in Albany; Cornell has won two of them.  I have no complaints about winning the tourney ~30% of the time.[/quote]

Two out of seven works out to 28.6%.  As a comparison, I think most people would consider the Big Red's seven ECAC championships in Boston Garden, where the ECACs were held from 1966 to 1992, a pretty successful run.  7 out of 27 years works out to 25.9%.

[quote billhoward]
If it's 7 title rounds played in Albany, Cornell has won 2 of the first 3 and 0 of the past 4. No current Cornell student (who's made it through in four years) has seen a Cornell ECAC championship banner hoisted. That needs to change. [/quote]

(*** considers mumbling something about having seen Cornell go TEN years without an ECAC championship banner, before deciding against it ***)

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Give My Regards]
Two out of seven works out to 28.6%.  As a comparison, I think most people would consider the Big Red's seven ECAC championships in Boston Garden, where the ECACs were held from 1966 to 1992, a pretty successful run.  7 out of 27 years works out to 25.9%.
[/quote]
Different level of competition from 1966 through 1984 with BU, BC, UNH, Providence, and Northeastern in the league.

[billhoward]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Give My Regards]
Two out of seven works out to 28.6%.  As a comparison, I think most people would consider the Big Red's seven ECAC championships in Boston Garden, where the ECACs were held from 1966 to 1992, a pretty successful run.  7 out of 27 years works out to 25.9%.
[/quote]
Different level of competition from 1966 through 1984 with BU, BC, UNH, Providence, and Northeastern in the league.[/quote]
Those titles were front-end loaded, too. Five in the first eight years, then two in 17 years. Even in losing years, being in Boston at the Garden was a tremendous experience.

[ebilmes]

Union is ranked pretty highly (27th)

http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0910/great58_0801.htm

[JasonN95]

[quote ebilmes]Union is ranked pretty highly (27th)

http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0910/great58_0801.htm[/quote]

Two spots ahead of Colorado College, who Cornell plays in Florida. Wouldn't have guessed that.

[Trotsky]

[quote JasonN95][quote ebilmes]Union is ranked pretty highly (27th)

http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0910/great58_0801.htm[/quote]

Two spots ahead of Colorado College, who Cornell plays in Florida. Wouldn't have guessed that.[/quote]They return about 83% of their forward scoring including their top 4 (Presizniuk, Valery-Trabucco, Walters and Boileau) and 100% of their minutes in goal.