"Fighting Sioux" nickname may [not] [may too] stick at N Dakota

Started by billhoward, April 23, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

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Josh '99

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Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Josh '99Chanting "smallpox blankets" at actual native americans is racist.
Drawing attention to race or a distinguishable property of a race as a means of mocking someone feels like racism to me, especially since the people chanting it are not thinking, "Let's make fun of those European descendants who murdered Native Americans with smallpox blankets!"
That said, I have a hard time caring if it's merely taunting: it's not like these people are being harassed by the police for driving while Native American. People need to lighten up and/or grow a thicker skin.
When Dwayne Wade steps to the line, who will be the first to chant "sickle cell anemia?

jtwcornell91

Via HOCKEY-L, a bizzare postscript to the saga, as some of the members of the relevant tribes who liked the nickname after all tried unsuccessfully to sue the NCAA (and presumably force UND) to get the name reinstated.  But the article includes a piece of information which I at least did not have:
QuoteUND now uses the nickname Coyotes.
Were there any alternative nicknames that attached themselves, Deertick-style to UND during the Year With No Name?  I tended to think of them as the Flickertails (their pre-Sioux nickname).

jtwcornell91

Quote from: jtwcornell91Via HOCKEY-L, a bizzare postscript to the saga, as some of the members of the relevant tribes who liked the nickname after all tried unsuccessfully to sue the NCAA (and presumably force UND) to get the name reinstated.  But the article includes a piece of information which I at least did not have:
QuoteUND now uses the nickname Coyotes.
Were there any alternative nicknames that attached themselves, Deertick-style to UND during the Year With No Name?  I tended to think of them as the Flickertails (their pre-Sioux nickname).

Seems to be contradicted by other sources:
QuoteThe legislation adopted in November, affirmed by state voters in Tuesday's primary election, requires UND to wait until 2015 to adopt a new nickname.

Trotsky

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Dafatone

Quote from: jtwcornell91Via HOCKEY-L, a bizzare postscript to the saga, as some of the members of the relevant tribes who liked the nickname after all tried unsuccessfully to sue the NCAA (and presumably force UND) to get the name reinstated.  But the article includes a piece of information which I at least did not have:
QuoteUND now uses the nickname Coyotes.
Were there any alternative nicknames that attached themselves, Deertick-style to UND during the Year With No Name?  I tended to think of them as the Flickertails (their pre-Sioux nickname).

That's likely a mistake, since we here at U of South Dakota are the Coyotes.  Granted, mixing up North and South Dakota is kind of the pastime around here.  But hard to imagine that they'd go for the same name as us.

marty

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: jtwcornell91Via HOCKEY-L, a bizzare postscript to the saga, as some of the members of the relevant tribes who liked the nickname after all tried unsuccessfully to sue the NCAA (and presumably force UND) to get the name reinstated.  But the article includes a piece of information which I at least did not have:
QuoteUND now uses the nickname Coyotes.
Were there any alternative nicknames that attached themselves, Deertick-style to UND during the Year With No Name?  I tended to think of them as the Flickertails (their pre-Sioux nickname).

Seems to be contradicted by other sources:
QuoteThe legislation adopted in November, affirmed by state voters in Tuesday's primary election, requires UND to wait until 2015 to adopt a new nickname.

From that source
QuoteUND also must protect its copyright on the logo designed by North Dakota artist Ben Brien, a member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians. Protection of the copyright is required by the 2007 settlement with the NCAA.

"You want to protect the integrity of your historical branding," Johnson said. "That would keep anyone from using it in ways we'd prefer it not be used."

Fear of wood screws?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

RichH

UND releases potential nickname suggestions

And soliciting input from the public went about as well as one could expect.


QuoteUND released Monday night 214 pages of nickname suggestions and their accompanying commentary submitted by the public.

The submissions to be considered can be viewed at HERE and will be vetted by the university's Nickname Committee, which will use a point system to score attributes and functionality. UND also released a list of names that will not be considered. That list can be viewed here. Warning: Several of the suggestions contain obscenities, racist terms or are otherwise offensive.

...

On the list of rejected names, the suggestion of "Fighting Sioux" proved a popular submission, with entries starting on page 32 and ends on page 160.

Dafatone


marty

Quote from: DafatoneMy vote goes to Abdominal Snowmen.



Yeti, another rejected suggestion.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jeff Hopkins '82

A no-win situation.  Whatever they pick, half the people will be unhappy.

KeithK

But the fact that they must have been required to release the list of submissions is a win-win for the rest of us.  Some of them are hilarious.  And even the childish obscene ones are worth a laugh or two.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: KeithKBut the fact that they must have been required to release the list of submissions is a win-win for the rest of us.  Some of them are hilarious.  And even the childish obscene ones are worth a laugh or two.

This is true.  I roared at some of them.

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005