"Fighting Sioux" nickname may [not] [may too] stick at N Dakota

Started by billhoward, April 23, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

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billhoward

Facing pushback rather than acquiesence from the University of North Dakota, the NCAA said it might be okay to keep using the Fighting Sioux nickname if two Indian tribes signed off on keeping the name. The first of the two tribes voted by a 2-1 margin with the North Dakota side.

AP story

IIRC, when Cornell played ND last fall, cornellbigred.com opted to take the PC side of things and rather than use the opponent school's nickname or mascot logo on the pre-game story promo photo as it does with other schools, just overprinted "North Dakota" in green lettering.

[Edit add: Sorry for posting in the Cornell hockey forum. Realized the mistake after hittimg Send.]

Josh '99

Or maybe it won't:  UND's Fighting Sioux nickname going away, following a vote by the North Dakota Board of Higher Education.  I wonder how much of a role the inability to host regionals at the Ralph played in this.
QuoteThe transition will likely include removing thousands of Sioux logos built into the floors and walls of the Ralph Englestad Arena in Grand Forks.
That is NOT going to be an easy project.
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ftyuv

They should keep their logos, call themselves the Fightin' Rorschachs and tell the NCAA that if it sees an offensive image, that's its own subconsciousness' fault.

French Rage

[quote ftyuv]They should keep their logos, call themselves the Fightin' Rorschachs and tell the NCAA that if it sees an offensive image, that's its own subconsciousness' fault.[/quote]

I'd take that for a mascot.
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03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
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Jim Hyla

I haven't seen this posted. From the NYTimes 12/18, thelawsuit by some tribal members to retain the nickname was thrown out. The decision remains with the State Board of Higher Education. Next meeting is 1/21 in Grand Forks. Nice, it's right before they play us. Maybe a distraction?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Quote from: Jim HylaI haven't seen this posted. From the NYTimes 12/18, thelawsuit by some tribal members to retain the nickname was thrown out. The decision remains with the State Board of Higher Education. Next meeting is 1/21 in Grand Forks. Nice, it's right before they play us. Maybe a distraction?
Or the opposite: a cause worth fighting for?

(The AP story Jim cites says the court sees the issue in pretty simple terms. The biggest one is whether the North Dakota Board of Higher Education's charter to oversee higher education in North Dakota means what it says. Court says it does.)

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billhoward

And the magnetic stripe debit feature on student IDs will no longer be call wampum.

But it's still okay to call Notre Dame the Fighting Irish on account of what Mel Brooks said in Blazing Saddles.

Greenberg '97

And while we're on the subject (although getting more and more OT)...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5063198

For those unfamiliar, here's the logo the NCAA finds offensive:

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=oi73zum2efx27hv3s57n

Edit: Didn't realize how old this story was... but the selection of the Griffin is the current news.  Sorry guys.

ursusminor

Quote from: ugarteI wonder if they'll call themselves the Ralphs.
I would find that offensive. ::rolleyes::

Jim Hyla

Wow, you should check out the siouxsports forum. Quite the discussion there.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

French Rage

Quote from: Greenberg '97For those unfamiliar, here's the logo the NCAA finds offensive:

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=oi73zum2efx27hv3s57n

My god, feathers!  How did they sleep at night?
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03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

marty

Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Greenberg '97For those unfamiliar, here's the logo the NCAA finds offensive:

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=oi73zum2efx27hv3s57n

My god, feathers!  How did they sleep at night?

My bird was very upset with that logo.  It is now much happier.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005