"Fighting Sioux" nickname may [not] [may too] stick at N Dakota

Started by billhoward, April 23, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

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billhoward

Story says an offical of the state board of education, which holds sway over ND, was looking for a closed meeting with the NCAA to further discuss the matter - since called off by the legislature's statement of inent - and had to be reminded that since it's a state body and it's not a criminal matter or personnel matter, the meeting that wasn't held with the NCAA had to be open. That a matter is controversial is exactly the reason why there should be open meetings.

Regardless, we've already seen the Fighting Sioux logo exorcised by various groups who've already made their own judgment calls. When UND came here to play a couple years back, the Photoshop creation Cornell built to promote the event online used a stylized "ND" rather than the ND mascot. Most other times Cornell uses Big Red Bears and (Fighting?) Quakers and BU Terriers.

Whether the logo really is offensive, it's fun to see how good a job various groups in North Dakota have done thumbing their noses at the outside world. Maybe Wagner College on Staten Island should be the Fighting Mafioso and I'd love to see that logo and mascot.

Rosey


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Rosey

Quote from: TrotskyIt's been done.

Awesome. :-)

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Rosey

Quote from: TrotskyThat's racist.
The (edit) Oscar the Grouch lobby isn't big enough for anyone to care.

Clearly (at least) this part of my brain has atrophied.
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Jim Hyla

Grand Forks Herald reports that the NCAA is sticking to the 2007 agreement. UND will face sanctions for continuing the Sioux mascot.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jkahn

The Gopher fan sitting next to me at the Frozen Four said that the U. of Minnesota has passed a by-law prohibiting its teams from scheduling non-conference games vs. teams with Native American nicknames.  He said that if there were no change in the situation, this would prohibit Minnesota from scheduling the Fighting Sioux once Minnesota left the WCHA.  Note: this is all hearsay, which I haven't verified.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

ugarte

Quote from: jkahnThe Gopher fan sitting next to me at the Frozen Four said that the U. of Minnesota has passed a by-law prohibiting its teams from scheduling non-conference games vs. teams with Native American nicknames.  He said that if there were no change in the situation, this would prohibit Minnesota from scheduling the Fighting Sioux once Minnesota left the WCHA.  Note: this is all hearsay, which I haven't verified.
The Big 10 isn't about to take on Illinois, I see.

billhoward

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jkahnThe Gopher fan sitting next to me at the Frozen Four said that the U. of Minnesota has passed a by-law prohibiting its teams from scheduling non-conference games vs. teams with Native American nicknames.  He said that if there were no change in the situation, this would prohibit Minnesota from scheduling the Fighting Sioux once Minnesota left the WCHA.  Note: this is all hearsay, which I haven't verified.
The Big 10 isn't about to take on Illinois, I see.
And the charity skate with the Chicago Blackhawks is off. Still on is the match vs. the Fighting Irish. Mel Brooks covered the Irish and race/ethnic relations nicely in Blazing Saddles. Sanction and sanctimonious may be the same thoughts.

RatushnyFan

Quote from: TrotskyIt's been done.

My two oldest boys played on their '99 and '00 summer teams last year.  Nice coaches, a couple are from B.C. I think.  The jerseys, though, are hideous.  I had 10 and 11 year kids wearing jerseys with simulated bullet holes and a cigar!  Not to mention that baby blue color.............

Their tier 3 junior team is pretty good, they're starting to generate some legitimate D-1 prospects.

amerks127

North Dakota and N.C.A.A. Are at Odds Again Over University's Sioux Mascot

"University officials hope that a meeting later this month in Indianapolis between Mr. Dalrymple, legislative leaders and N.C.A.A. officials will help resolve the conflict. As it stands, if the university continues to use the name after Aug. 15, its athletics program would face penalties that could jeopardize much-lauded plans to join the Big Sky Conference."

Jeff Hopkins '82

I wonder if a condition for becoming a member of the new hockey "Super Conference" was to not raise a stink about mascots or nicknames ::whistle::

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Quote from: Jim HylaBut maybe it won't stick. NCAA reports that North Dakota plans to retire nickname.
MCAA might have resolved this sooner but for dealing with Jim Tressel and other tangental enforcement issues.