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[Willy '06]

Hey Ref Girl in Section B! Get of your knees, you're blowing [during] the game!

[DeltaOne81]

[quote RichH][quote JDeafv]Supposedly the two were observed by a security person on the far side of the rink (Section N), but by the time security mobilized to the scene they were "finished" and denied everything.

It was deemed unacceptable by the higher-ups in athletics that none of the ushers were paying enough attention to stop this from occurring.[/quote]

Once again, this could very well be an example of the "those dang kids are up to no good" policy that exists and always siding against the students in a conflict of accounts.  Yes, the possiblilty of this being true is eyebrow-raising, but if you stop and THINK about it, doesn't anyone even question the validity of this witnesses account?  Surely if it was visible FROM ACROSS THE BUILDING, someone else must have seen it?  I know if something like that happened near me in a section as crowded as B, there'd be a little bit of a ruckus.[/quote]

I have to say that was my first thought (ok, well, second ::woot:. Did anyone in the section see it? Anyone else across the way? Wouldn't this have been a major happening & story, not to mention having charges pressed for public indecency??

Coming from ushers who identify the wrong fish thrower when standing next to them, I'd have to imagine the odds of it being something that never happened is reasonably high. Or is this corroborated?

[TimV]

Hey Jeff- Is that smilie really whistling???

[Jim Hyla]

[quote TimV]Hey Jeff- Is that smilie really whistling???[/quote]Or is it ::dribble::

[TimV]

The "Harvard Sucks" thread has 335 posts since Dec 1 2003 - almost 5 years and 10 weeks.

This thread has 215 posts in 2 weeks.  If we could get RichS to post here we could easily get the 121 posts needed to set the record and it would probably only take 4-5 days...::woot::

[Robb]

[quote TimV]The "Harvard Sucks" thread has 335 posts since Dec 1 2003 - almost 5 years and 10 weeks.

This thread has 215 posts in 2 weeks.  If we could get RichS to post here we could easily get the 121 posts needed to set the record and it would probably only take 4-5 days...::woot::[/quote]
It'll never happen - this thread doesn't fit with his worldview that the Cornell students and band currently get away with everything and act just as badly as the Clarkson fans currently do.

[amerks127]

Given that I started this thread, and it's well on its way to the lead (though probably won't sustain it), I feel the need to add something substantive to keep the debate alive...but actually I wanted to be clear about where I stand because I believe many people on here think that it's simply a matter of students wanting to swear.

I have no problem with Athletics attempting to take out swearing from Lynah Rink, nor do I believe we cannot create cheers without profanity.  The problem has always been, and continues to be, the comparative treatment between student hockey fans and other fans (e.g. Townie's or students at baskeball games).  While this stretches beyond just swearing into ticket prices or free gear, the problem right now obviously focuses on swearing.  Most notably, what angered me about the most recent attempts was the clear focus on students alone.  Had Athletics enforced this policy from sections A-O, balcony inclusive, students would have little reason to complain.  Yet, when the profanity=ejection signs are posted outside just student sections and section O, one cannot dispute the bias.  Despite the fact that I would prefer no student be ejected from any sporting event, I was pleased that enforcement is now occurring at Newman because it shows equal treatment across sporting events.

Many here have attested to the fact that swearing occurs in the Townie sections, yet I'll be damned if one Townie section has ever been policed as thoroughly by ushers, let alone if an usher would actually have the audacity to rescind the season ticket of a Townie for swearing.  I realize that the reason for the policy itself comes from university administration, but Athletics formulates the implementation.  A clear and consistent message across all fans throughout both the rink and the season, including perhaps an announcement after puck drop reminding fans that the use of objectionable language or gestures results in ejection would serve athletics better than to criminalize the Lynah Faithful.

Swearing is not an integral part of Lynah, yet there are better, more effective methods to get rid of it, including a clear, concise, and consistent message to all fans at Lynah.

[Trotsky]

[quote TimV]The "Harvard Sucks" thread has 335 posts since Dec 1 2003 - almost 5 years and 10 weeks.  This thread has 215 posts in 2 weeks.[/quote]Chanting "bend over" while not watching Cornell set up a play in the other end...

[Trotsky]

[quote amerks127]Swearing is not an integral part of Lynah, yet there are better, more effective methods to get rid of it, including a clear, concise, and consistent message to all fans at Lynah.[/quote]What are you proposing as an alternative?  Randomly terrorizing kids in section B isn't fair and probably isn't effective, granted.  How then do you appeal to the crowd?


It ought to be effective if somebody the crowd respected, to the degree that they respect anybody, would tell them they're being morons.  ADs and coaches, including Schafer, have done that in the past, albeit there's something very depressing about having to remind a bunch of presumptive adults not to behave like middle schoolers.

This has been an issue since at least the early 80's, and it comes and goes in alternating waves of student idiocy and administrative persecution.  Best to dial down the rabble, rabble, rabble on both sides.  If a fan gets way out of line by insisting on standing in front of somebody, OK, then throw them out of the rink for that night -- they'll figure it out after one or two times.  But as for profanity, that's much better handled by mass shaming.  The person who can stand up to an entire section telling him (it is invariably a him) not to drop the f bomb is probably visibly drunk, and if they're drunk you can throw them out, too.  The rest will fold when mature people give them the hairy eyeball.

[RedWins11]

i am a first year student at cornell, but have loved college hockey for a while

tonight a student sitting next to me was asked to leave for swearing (which i agree does not need to have a place in Lynah) however this was not b/c any usher had heard him swear but after Q took a penalty a lip reader saw him swear from across the rink

is this a joke?

[TimV]

Facts are wrong.  The Athletics department has no lipreaders.

It was a mentalist who knew that he was thinking an obscenity.

[Chris '03]

Maybe the anaphoric society can pass out some bandannas for fans to cover their mouths. Hell, make them pink and then it's in line with the promotion in two weeks.

[redice]

[quote Chris '03]Maybe the anaphoric society can pass out some bandannas for fans to cover their mouths. Hell, make them pink and then it's in line with the promotion in two weeks.[/quote]

You know Chris, if you could pull that one off for everyone in the student sections, that would be one of the funniest things ever done at Lynah.   And, it would be one great big "gotcha" imposed on Lynah Gestapo.

[Chris '03]

[quote redice][quote Chris '03]Maybe the anaphoric society can pass out some bandannas for fans to cover their mouths. Hell, make them pink and then it's in line with the promotion in two weeks.[/quote]

You know Chris, if you could pull that one off for everyone in the student sections, that would be one of the funniest things ever done at Lynah.   And, it would be one great big "gotcha" imposed on Lynah Gestapo.[/quote]

Start passing the hat. They're $0.70 each in bulk. $700 gets you a thousand. You might be able to do better if you search for more than 10 seconds. http://www.centurynovelty.com/detail_591_146-1112.html?mr:referralID=7477dc61-f52e-11dd-a8aa-000423bb4e95

[saff678]

I'm in my fourth undergrad year of attending games, and every time they try to stop swearing, the only way of convincing us to stop is by threatening to kick us out. That makes it seems like the only reason to stop swearing is so they won't kick us out, whereas the people on this thread have presented some much more admirable reasons. If the email they sent to us said, "stop swearing because there are kids in the rink" instead of "stop swearing because we've got the pep band under the gun", I think the fans would respond a bit more respectfully. This isn't about the students who read this forum, it's about the hundreds who don't who haven't been given a reasoned argument to stop.