Cornell in Pairwise and KRACH

lynah80 · January 19, 2009, 01:30:01 AM

Air Force seems to be eager to make room for someone in the top 25, with their zero point weekend against Canisius.

Rosey · January 19, 2009, 07:07:29 AM

[quote Jim Hyla]As I posted before they also all inhibit blood clotting. That is a bad thing if you develop stomach bleeding. Stomach problems from NSAIDs, with or without EtOH, are far more likely than liver problems from 2 Tylenol.[/quote]
Hmmm... my understanding was that the COX-1 inhibition effect of NSAIDs allowed stomach acid to break down the lining of the stomach *over time*, but that one-time (or even several-time) use was not really an issue. Perhaps I've been edumucated wrong.

Jim Hyla · January 19, 2009, 10:32:54 AM

[quote Kyle Rose][quote Jim Hyla]As I posted before they also all inhibit blood clotting. That is a bad thing if you develop stomach bleeding. Stomach problems from NSAIDs, with or without EtOH, are far more likely than liver problems from 2 Tylenol.[/quote]
Hmmm... my understanding was that the COX-1 inhibition effect of NSAIDs allowed stomach acid to break down the lining of the stomach *over time*, but that one-time (or even several-time) use was not really an issue. Perhaps I've been edumucated wrong.[/quote]

No, you are essentially correct. It's very unlikely that a single use of an NSAID will cause stomach bleeding, just like it's exceedingly unlikely, that 2 Tylenol will cause liver failure. However, since you brought up Tylenol causing liver failure, I felt it necessary to reemphasize that GI problems from NSAIDs are far more likely than liver failure from Tylenol.

My point is NSAIDs and EtOH are far more likely to cause problems than Tylenol and EtOH. However neither are likely to cause problems with a single use. That's why they are over-the-counter drugs, they are all relatively safe. But for me, I'd take a Tylenol if I were going to use EtOh.

Ken70 · January 19, 2009, 12:54:13 PM

How is a conference winner, AF in this case, handled as to TUC at season end. Even if their 30th in the RPI are they treated as one of the 25 TUCs because they're going to the dance?

Robb · January 19, 2009, 12:59:26 PM

[quote Ken70]How is a conference winner, AF in this case, handled as to TUC at season end. Even if their 30th in the RPI are they treated as one of the 25 TUCs because they're going to the dance?[/quote]
No, they are not considered a TUC. They used to be, but that was changed a couple years ago - one of the many tweaks to the PWR *process* because of an undesirable *outcome*...

Killer · January 19, 2009, 02:02:46 PM

Would you guys give this up already? You're driving me crazy ::nut::

The whole point of the story was that the prescription was beer, not painkillers. BEER!!!! ::drunk::

lynah80 · January 19, 2009, 02:19:15 PM

[quote Robb][quote Ken70]How is a conference winner, AF in this case, handled as to TUC at season end. Even if their 30th in the RPI are they treated as one of the 25 TUCs because they're going to the dance?[/quote]
No, they are not considered a TUC. They used to be, but that was changed a couple years ago - one of the many tweaks to the PWR *process* because of an undesirable *outcome*...[/quote]

Air Force also dropped out of first place in Atlantic Hockey.

RIT 13-4-1
A F 12-3-1

As of 1/19/09

jtwcornell91 · January 19, 2009, 09:00:47 PM

[quote lynah80]
RIT 13-4-1
A F 12-3-1

As of 1/19/09[/quote]

::banana::

Jim Hyla · January 19, 2009, 10:00:10 PM

[quote Killer]Would you guys give this up already? You're driving me crazy ::nut::

The whole point of the story was that the prescription was beer, not painkillers. BEER!!!! ::drunk::[/quote]But you're learning something, aren't you?::idea::

RichH · January 20, 2009, 12:20:14 AM

[quote jtwcornell91][quote lynah80]
RIT 13-4-1
A F 12-3-1

As of 1/19/09[/quote]

::banana::[/quote]

Whatever, newbie.

Josh '99 · January 20, 2009, 08:51:58 AM

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Killer]Would you guys give this up already? You're driving me crazy ::nut::

The whole point of the story was that the prescription was beer, not painkillers. BEER!!!! ::drunk::[/quote]But you're learning something, aren't you?::idea::[/quote]Between this and the discussion in the Polls thread, I'm learning that some discussions can be skimmed. :-}

So... Tylenol, then? :-D

Robb · January 20, 2009, 09:14:20 AM

[quote Josh '99]So... Tylenol, then? :-D[/quote]
And Beer. Lots and lots of beer. ::drunk::

Give My Regards · January 20, 2009, 10:30:44 AM

[quote lynah80]
Air Force also dropped out of first place in Atlantic Hockey.

RIT 13-4-1
A F 12-3-1

As of 1/19/09[/quote]

... although Air Force still has two games in hand and currently leads in win percentage, .781 to .750.

BOO, painkillers. Hooray, BEER! ::drunk::

(or ::deadhorse:: )

Josh '99 · January 20, 2009, 03:21:34 PM

[quote Robb][quote Josh '99]So... Tylenol, then? :-D[/quote]
And Beer. Lots and lots of beer. ::drunk::[/quote]I thought that generally went without saying.

Killer · January 20, 2009, 03:53:24 PM

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Killer]Would you guys give this up already? You're driving me crazy ::nut::

The whole point of the story was that the prescription was beer, not painkillers. BEER!!!! ::drunk::[/quote]But you're learning something, aren't you?::idea::[/quote]

I wish that were the case. But the combination a few years back of a lot of cycling, a sore knee (yeah, probably that old rugby injury), diverticula, and Extra Strength Anacin taught me just about all I ever need to know regarding NSAIDs, platelets, etc.

(All - recommend that you don't PM me for details)