Polls 1/12

Beeeej · January 12, 2009, 05:12:21 PM

My understanding is that that's not what "bracket integrity" means - it means maintaining the #1 through #4 teams as the top seeds, #5 through #8 as the second seeds, etc. It's so that nobody is unfairly advantaged or disadvantaged by their matchup just because it would help prevent first-round intraconference games. So they consider #1 vs. #14 to be proper by this standard (which is what happened to us in 2003), and #4 vs. #16 also would be - but e.g., #1 vs. #12 would not be acceptable, even if #s 13-16 are all in #1's conference.

Trotsky · January 12, 2009, 05:19:02 PM

Finish in the top 2 in PWR and it won't matter.

Robb · January 12, 2009, 05:58:49 PM

[quote Beeeej]My understanding is that that's not what "bracket integrity" means - it means maintaining the #1 through #4 teams as the top seeds, #5 through #8 as the second seeds, etc.[/quote]
I think people refer to maintaining the "sum of 17" (1+16, 2+15, etc) as "competitive equity" or something like that.

KeithK · January 12, 2009, 06:00:28 PM

[quote Trotsky]Finish in the top 2 in PWR and it won't matter.[/quote]Amen. Or, as I like to say, just win the next 22 in a row...

Swampy · January 12, 2009, 06:06:31 PM

[quote sah67]http://www.uscho.com/rankings/

We move up to #5 with two first-place votes, and we now have 4 ECAC teams ranked nationally, with Yale cracking the list at #19, Princeton sliding to #10, and Dartmouth falling to #18.

And for those of you who care, we're up to #3 in the oh-so-crucial INCH Power Rankings:
http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0809/polls_0716.htm[/quote]

It's interesting that the comments for the top 3 teams on INCH all reflect their strong defensive performance.

sah67 · January 12, 2009, 06:23:49 PM

[quote Swampy]

It's interesting that the comments for the top 3 teams on INCH all reflect their strong defensive performance.[/quote]

In contrast to USCHO, who, over the weekend, posted a front page headline about Notre Dame being "boring" despite their ridiculous winning streak. Almost like they had some WCHA-fanboy webmaster for a day or something.

Al DeFlorio · January 12, 2009, 06:40:17 PM

If UHN is host team in Manchester and they make the tournament (almost a given), they will play in Manchester.

Josh '99 · January 12, 2009, 06:42:40 PM

[quote KeithK][quote Trotsky]Finish in the top 2 in PWR and it won't matter.[/quote]Amen. Or, as I like to say, just win the next 22 in a row...[/quote]Al Davis had the right idea. Just win, baby.

Jeff Hopkins '82 · January 13, 2009, 09:36:08 AM

[quote Josh '99][quote KeithK][quote Trotsky]Finish in the top 2 in PWR and it won't matter.[/quote]Amen. Or, as I like to say, just win the next 22 in a row...[/quote]Al Davis had the right idea. Just win, baby.[/quote]

As much as I dislike Al Davis, that saying goes through my head every time we start talking about "What does Cornell have to do to..."::doh::

jnachod · January 13, 2009, 01:11:49 PM

We should make a cheer loosely based on Sarah Palin's rhetoric (drill, baby, drill) .... Win baby Win !

ftyuv · January 13, 2009, 01:23:09 PM

[quote jnachod]We should make a cheer loosely based on Sarah Palin's rhetoric (drill, baby, drill) .... Win baby Win ![/quote]Or show up early enough for the warmup drills, and then you can just chant "drill baby drill" straight up.

mnagowski · January 13, 2009, 01:30:14 PM

QuoteOr show up early enough for the warmup drills, and then you can just chant "drill baby drill" straight up.

Now that's a great idea.

nyc94 · January 13, 2009, 03:39:20 PM

[quote KeithK]Here's my favorite PWR/tournament nightmare. Cornell finishes strong, returns to the tournament and captures a #1 regional seed. But only being ranked #3 or #4 in the PWR behind a couple of other eastern teams they get shipped to Marriucci against a regional field that includes big ice teams UNH and home team Minnesota.[/quote]

The first bracketology column is up and Cornell ends up in Grand Rapids even as the number two in PWR. Cornell v. Maine and BC v. Michigan.

Beeeej · January 13, 2009, 04:26:59 PM

[quote nyc94]The first bracketology column is up and Cornell ends up in Grand Rapids even as the number two in PWR. Cornell v. Maine and BC v. Michigan.[/quote]

[quote USCHO]To be honest, I think Cornell is happier with this arrangement, rather than getting switched with BU, resulting in a UNH-Cornell matchup in Manchester. So we'll stick with this.[/quote]

Really? We'd be so hell-bent on playing the presumably "weaker" #14 instead of #13 that we'd rather go the 533 miles to Grand Rapids, Michigan instead of 380 miles to the far more Cornell-northeast-alumni-and-student-base-friendly Manchester, NH?!? Even with Manchester as a de facto home game for UNH?

KeithK · January 13, 2009, 04:27:48 PM

[quote nyc94][quote KeithK]Here's my favorite PWR/tournament nightmare. Cornell finishes strong, returns to the tournament and captures a #1 regional seed. But only being ranked #3 or #4 in the PWR behind a couple of other eastern teams they get shipped to Marriucci against a regional field that includes big ice teams UNH and home team Minnesota.[/quote]

The first bracketology column is up and Cornell ends up in Grand Rapids even as the number two in PWR. Cornell v. Maine and BC v. Michigan.[/quote]
I'd scream bloody murder if they shipped us west in violation of their "highest seeds closest to home" rule. But there's a lot moer hockey to be played before we could claim a #2 PWR ranking, so it's not worth worrying about now.