Niagara Saturday Postgame

Trotsky · January 10, 2009, 09:20:21 PM

11-1-3 does not suck.

Cornell has now opened up a decent lead in win%, courtesy of Princeton and Quinny shedding some points.

.875 Cornell
.750 Yale
.667 Princeton
.636 Dartmouth
.636 Quinnipiac*

* Trailing Union 3-2 in third.

Al DeFlorio · January 10, 2009, 09:23:21 PM

[quote Trotsky]11-1-3 does not suck.

Cornell has now opened up a decent lead in win%, courtesy of Princeton and Quinny shedding some points.

.875 Cornell
.750 Yale
.667 Princeton
.636 Dartmouth
.636 Quinnipiac*

* Trailing Union 3-2 in third.[/quote]
Yale coming on strong.

Sioux sticking it to Goofers again, 3-0 mid-2nd.

Killer · January 10, 2009, 09:25:00 PM

[quote Trotsky]11-1-3 does not suck.

Cornell has now opened up a decent lead in win%, courtesy of Princeton and Quinny shedding some points.

.875 Cornell
.750 Yale
.667 Princeton
.636 Dartmouth
.636 Quinnipiac*

* Trailing Union 3-2 in third.[/quote]

* Union wins 4-2

Trotsky · January 10, 2009, 10:17:07 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio]Yale coming on strong.[/quote]

The Ivies look like a two-team race.

Jim Hyla · January 10, 2009, 10:53:54 PM

[quote Trotsky]11-1-3 does not suck.[/quote]

But 4-11-3 does. Guess who hasn't won a game since 11/15.

Give My Regards · January 10, 2009, 11:29:14 PM

[quote Trotsky]11-1-3 does not suck.[/quote]

Not only does it not suck, it's a slightly better record than the 02-03 squad managed in their first 15 games (12-3). In fact, it's Cornell's best record after 15 games since the 71-72 squad opened with a 13-2 record. I don't know whether this is significant or not, but 71-72 was also the last season Cornell played in the NCAA championship game (which they lost, but still...)

Jim Hyla · January 11, 2009, 12:32:58 AM

[quote Give My Regards][quote Trotsky]11-1-3 does not suck.[/quote]

Not only does it not suck, it's a slightly better record than the 02-03 squad managed in their first 15 games (12-3). In fact, it's Cornell's best record after 15 games since the 71-72 squad opened with a 13-2 record. I don't know whether this is significant or not, but 71-72 was also the last season Cornell played in the NCAA championship game (which they lost, but still...)[/quote]

Hey, what are you trying to do? Trotsky is supposed to come out with those kind of stats.::smashfreak::

daredevilcu · January 11, 2009, 01:46:39 AM

Who?

Jim Hyla · January 11, 2009, 09:13:13 AM

[quote daredevilcu]Who?[/quote]

Well, you made me switch view (coming right after my post on stats, I almost thought you meant Trotsky), but the answer is Harvard. Even Clarkson has won a game since then, although their record is worse.

marty · January 11, 2009, 10:29:00 AM

While I am happy that Sucks hasn't won in a long time, last night was also enjoyable on cable because of the Goofers loss to N. Dak to complete a sweep for the Sioux. To see Woog and his cohort smiling on the post game you almost wonder if Douggy wants his job back.

Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?

daredevilcu · January 11, 2009, 10:49:52 AM

I knew it wasn't Clarkson, so my immediate guess was Brown. Checked that out and was wrong, so wow, Harvard's doing that poorly as well? Yikes.

Trotsky · January 11, 2009, 11:52:56 AM

[quote marty]Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?[/quote]Currently second.

marty · January 11, 2009, 12:03:43 PM

[quote Trotsky][quote marty]Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?[/quote]Currently second.[/quote]

Well Screw BU, but that didn't really answer my question. Does our split wih N. Dak. and their sweep of the Goofers help us in the pairwise?

Jacob '06 · January 11, 2009, 12:07:12 PM

[quote marty][quote Trotsky][quote marty]Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?[/quote]Currently second.[/quote]

Well Screw BU, but that didn't really answer my question. Does our split wih N. Dak. and their sweep of the Goofers help us in the pairwise?[/quote]

Well, it flipped our COP with minnesota, and I imagine it raised our RPI since it raised our opponents winning percentage.

Chris '03 · January 11, 2009, 01:00:36 PM

[quote Jacob '06][quote marty][quote Trotsky][quote marty]Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?[/quote]Currently second.[/quote]

Well Screw BU, but that didn't really answer my question. Does our split wih N. Dak. and their sweep of the Goofers help us in the pairwise?[/quote]

Well, it flipped our COP with minnesota, and I imagine it raised our RPI since it raised our opponents winning percentage.[/quote]

It's a complicated question. It depends. On the one hand we can pull hard for NoDak (and SCSU, Niagara, and UMass) to win as much as possible. This improves Cornell's RPI and thus, PWR. However, if NoDak cements itself in the top 25 of RPI, then the split in grand forks includes a TUC loss (and win) on Cornell's record. Right now that's no big deal since they don't have 10 TUC games played yet. It may matter down the line in the TUC comparison. There's a chance Cornell will be right on the 10 game line at season's end and whether NoDak is good enough to be t-25 determines whether CU's TUC record is a factor or not. Whether we want it to be a factor is largely a function of how Cornell does against the remaining TUCs on the schedule (likely three or all of: DC, QU, YU(2), PU). At this point I think it's too early to get too concerned with what NoDak is doing (in theory an RPI rank of 26 and success vs. conference TUCs would be ideal) because we don't know whether an additional tuc win and loss will be good or bad. In this particular case though, I think Minnesota losing is always good regardless of who it's against. Cornell's result with NoDak is largely irrelevant to that.

I get the sense I'm over thinking this though...