Cornell 4 at Colgate 1 Post-game Thread

Dpperk29 · November 14, 2008, 07:47:43 AM

[quote ebilmes][quote Doug '08]Am I remembering this right, or isn't Colgate the wacky rink that records "saves" and not "shots" on the scoreboard? Perhaps that could have caused some of the confusion... always pissed me off, ALMOST as much as the big red chewing gum and free pizza give aways. Although hey, at least we brought our jerseys this game.[/quote]

Actually I think you're right, it was probably saves. I just assumed it counted shots like every other scoreboard.

As for the chewing gum, it took 3-4 minutes to clear the ice of the damn things AFTER the refs were ready to drop the puck. I thought that was legitimate grounds for a penalty.[/quote]

how can you be mad about packaged chewing gum being thrown on the ice when cornell students throw unpackaged, dead fish on the ice?

is the pot calling the kettle black?

Josh '99 · November 14, 2008, 08:34:56 AM

[quote Dpperk29][quote ebilmes]Actually I think you're right, it was probably saves. I just assumed it counted shots like every other scoreboard.

As for the chewing gum, it took 3-4 minutes to clear the ice of the damn things AFTER the refs were ready to drop the puck. I thought that was legitimate grounds for a penalty.[/quote]

how can you be mad about packaged chewing gum being thrown on the ice when cornell students throw unpackaged, dead fish on the ice?

is the pot calling the kettle black?[/quote]Lynah's staff are ready to clean the fish up and do so, without fail, by the time the game is ready to start. (They're sure to do so because they know that Cornell can be penalized if it doesn't get done in time.) Starr's rink staff apparently were not similarly prepared; perhaps a delay of game penalty would motivate them to be ready in the future.

ebilmes · November 14, 2008, 08:45:20 AM

[quote Dpperk29]how can you be mad about packaged chewing gum being thrown on the ice when cornell students throw unpackaged, dead fish on the ice?

is the pot calling the kettle black?[/quote]

I don't care what people throw on the ice so long as it's cleaned up quickly and doesn't delay the game for several minutes.

Give My Regards · November 14, 2008, 09:00:05 AM

[quote Josh '99]Lynah's staff are ready to clean the fish up and do so, without fail, by the time the game is ready to start. (They're sure to do so because they know that Cornell can be penalized if it doesn't get done in time.) Starr's rink staff apparently were not similarly prepared; perhaps a delay of game penalty would motivate them to be ready in the future.[/quote]

The general sequence of events in a situation like this is:

1. Fans throw stuff on the ice.
2. The referee has a warning read over the PA, indicating that further object-tossing will result in a bench minor for the home team.
3. If further objects are tossed, the penalty is called.

1 and 2 happen at every Harvard game at Lynah. The warning was announced at Starr last night, while the rink staff was gathering up the gum. It seemed to be read just after a long dark object that was definitely *not* a package of gum hit the ice.

I don't know why the staff was so under-prepared to clear the gum off the ice. Don't they give the stuff out at the game?? What do they think people are going to do with it??

Jim Hyla · November 14, 2008, 09:04:51 AM

[quote ebilmes][quote Doug '08]Am I remembering this right, or isn't Colgate the wacky rink that records "saves" and not "shots" on the scoreboard? Perhaps that could have caused some of the confusion... always pissed me off, ALMOST as much as the big red chewing gum and free pizza give aways. Although hey, at least we brought our jerseys this game.[/quote]

Actually I think you're right, it was probably saves. I just assumed it counted shots like every other scoreboard.

As for the chewing gum, it took 3-4 minutes to clear the ice of the damn things AFTER the refs were ready to drop the puck. I thought that was legitimate grounds for a penalty.[/quote]
It is saves, and after the period ends they change the numbers. So, I assume the ones during the period are "not official" and changed to the official numbers later.

Dpperk29 · November 14, 2008, 09:51:15 AM

[quote Give My Regards][quote Josh '99]Lynah's staff are ready to clean the fish up and do so, without fail, by the time the game is ready to start. (They're sure to do so because they know that Cornell can be penalized if it doesn't get done in time.) Starr's rink staff apparently were not similarly prepared; perhaps a delay of game penalty would motivate them to be ready in the future.[/quote]

The general sequence of events in a situation like this is:

1. Fans throw stuff on the ice.
2. The referee has a warning read over the PA, indicating that further object-tossing will result in a bench minor for the home team.
3. If further objects are tossed, the penalty is called.

1 and 2 happen at every Harvard game at Lynah. The warning was announced at Starr last night, while the rink staff was gathering up the gum. It seemed to be read just after a long dark object that was definitely *not* a package of gum hit the ice.

I don't know why the staff was so under-prepared to clear the gum off the ice. Don't they give the stuff out at the game?? What do they think people are going to do with it??[/quote]

ok, so the it's not a pot-kettle situation if your complaints are with the rink staff not cleaning them up in a timely manner.

I got the impression you were saying that the fans were jerks for throwing the gum onto the ice. (they are jerks for so many other reasons it doesn't matter either way)

ebilmes · November 14, 2008, 10:07:35 AM

As in past years, this was passed out at the game last night.

amerks127 · November 14, 2008, 10:17:23 AM

Not sure if this was mentioned but Scrivens' shutout streak lasted 206:44, passing Cropper's record of 189:45.

RichH · November 14, 2008, 01:38:02 PM

[quote amerks127]Not sure if this was mentioned but Scrivens' shutout streak lasted 206:44, passing Cropper's record of 189:45.[/quote]

Yeah, in the game thread. It ranks #2 all-time for ECAC streaks to Colgate's Mark Dekanich's 217:16 set this past February. Scrivens missed that mark by 10:32.


ECAC Shutout Streaks
1. 217:16   Dekanich    Colgate '07-'08
2. 206:44   Scrivens    Cornell '07-'08 & '08-'09
3. 199:44   Koenig    Union   '96-'97
4. 198:30   Laing    RPI     '98-'99
5. 189:48   Cropper    Cornell '69-'70

Source: http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2008/feb/22/hkcnotes_222/

For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23. MSU's Ryan Miller had one at 229:29, but the all-time record (playoffs included) was a ridiculous 375:01 — Blaine Lacher for Lake Superior St., Feb. 26-March 2, 1994.

160:59 to open a season...I would guess that would be a record.

Edit: 165:59 to open the season because I neglected the 5:00 OT at Quinnipiac. Thanks to Ronald '09.

Beeeej · November 14, 2008, 03:15:13 PM

[quote RichH]For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23.[/quote]

I must be missing something. What's the distinction between the two?

Give My Regards · November 14, 2008, 03:39:44 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote RichH]For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23.[/quote]

I must be missing something. What's the distinction between the two?[/quote]

Um... Clemmensen's is a regular-season record, and Schneider's isn't. I assume Schneider's is being mentioned because it was more recent (2006).

Ronald '09 · November 14, 2008, 04:18:08 PM

[quote RichH][quote amerks127]Not sure if this was mentioned but Scrivens' shutout streak lasted 206:44, passing Cropper's record of 189:45.[/quote]

Yeah, in the game thread. It ranks #2 all-time for ECAC streaks to Colgate's Mark Dekanich's 217:16 set this past February. Scrivens missed that mark by 10:32.


ECAC Shutout Streaks
1. 217:16   Dekanich    Colgate '07-'08
2. 206:44   Scrivens    Cornell '07-'08 & '08-'09
3. 199:44   Koenig    Union   '96-'97
4. 198:30   Laing    RPI     '98-'99
5. 189:48   Cropper    Cornell '69-'70

Source: http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2008/feb/22/hkcnotes_222/

For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23. MSU's Ryan Miller had one at 229:29, but the all-time record (playoffs included) was a ridiculous 375:01 — Blaine Lacher for Lake Superior St., Feb. 26-March 2, 1994.

160:59 to open a season...I would guess that would be a record.[/quote]

Is 160:59 the official number to start the season? On the surface it seems to me not to include the 5 minute overtime. Or is that made up by Ben's leaving the ice on delayed penalty calls?

Beeeej · November 14, 2008, 04:46:02 PM

[quote Give My Regards][quote Beeeej][quote RichH]For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23.[/quote]

I must be missing something. What's the distinction between the two?[/quote]

Um... Clemmensen's is a regular-season record, and Schneider's isn't. I assume Schneider's is being mentioned because it was more recent (2006).[/quote]

So why does it say "For regular season streaks" before Schneider's? That's the only reason I asked. It sounded to me like they're both regular season streaks, and so one would have to be the record while the other is not.

TimV · November 14, 2008, 05:21:35 PM

[quote Dpperk29]is the pot calling the kettle black?[/quote]

Racist!!**]

ugarte · November 14, 2008, 06:14:41 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote Give My Regards][quote Beeeej][quote RichH]For regular season streaks, BC's Schnieder had 242:19. The record for a regular season shutout streak is BC's Clemmensen 254:23.[/quote]

I must be missing something. What's the distinction between the two?[/quote]

Um... Clemmensen's is a regular-season record, and Schneider's isn't. I assume Schneider's is being mentioned because it was more recent (2006).[/quote]

So why does it say "For regular season streaks" before Schneider's? That's the only reason I asked. It sounded to me like they're both regular season streaks, and so one would have to be the record while the other is not.[/quote]
Schneider played goalie naked.