New York Times rides with Cornell Hoops

[CornellFan]

http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2008/02/ny-times-covers-cornell-basketball.html

[RichH]

*sigh*

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mbball/2008/2/14/NYTimesBlog.asp?path=mbball

or even more directly,

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/author/pthamel/?scp=2-b&sq=Pete+Thamel+BLog&st=nyt

[Jim Hyla]

It's too bad, CornellFan's site is really quite nice. I suspect more of us might go to it if he were to post it something like:

New York Times rides with Cornell Hoops.

A NY Times reporter will be traveling with CU B'ball. You can read about this at (insert the NY Times web address here) or see my site for that and much more.

[jksnake06]

I really recommend CornellFan's site.  He does an excellent job.

I think its time to take a break from hockey and lacrosse and focus on Men's and Women's hoops.  They have a chance to bring a lot of national attention to Cornell.

Go Red.

[nr53]

I've never been a big fan of basketball, though I find the College game much more interesting than the professional one. I agree that Cornellians should embrace any sport that is bringing positive recognition to the school, be it a smaller niche sport or something more main stream. That said, I don't think it's too hard to follow two sports at once. I don't see myself choosing a basketball game over a hockey game anytime soon and I think that feeling will be echoed by many here. By all means cheer on your favorite sport, but any fan who drops a team because they're not beating the world this year (or the past two years) isn't really one that I want next to me in Lynah during a game.

[ugarte]

Nobody argues that CornellFan is providing a lot of great information about the game at his blog, jksnake. The objections are to his self-promotion and pageview whoring. As Jim noted, the typical style is to link to the original and then to your own site for more analysis (or, better, a link to the original with the analysis actually written here sometimes). Instead, he just links to his blog - and then you see "violation" number two: he doesn't excerpt from his sources, he cuts and pastes entire articles (or the parts of them relevant to Cornell).

[scoop85]

[quote RichH]*sigh*

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mbball/2008/2/14/NYTimesBlog.asp?path=mbball

or even more directly,

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/author/pthamel/?scp=2-b&sq=Pete+Thamel+BLog&st=nyt[/quote]

Folks, I think people are a little too hyper about CornellFan.  It's not like he's charging your credit card when you hit the link to his site ::rolleyes::.

[jksnake06]

I wasn't suggesting that anyone stop following the other Cornell teams.  I'm just stunned that Cornell is trying to make the most popular sporting event in the US this side of the Super Bowl (for the first time in 20 years) and there seems to be greater interest in the lacrosse season which hasn't even started yet.

To each his own.

Regarding CornellFan's site, I wish he would link to articles also instead of cutting and pasting.  I also understand the frustration with his making people go through his site to see an article.

I'm just saying that there's lots of great stuff there if you can get past these things.  If they bother you too much to go to the site, that's obviously your call.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote jksnake06]I'm just stunned that Cornell is trying to make the most popular sporting event in the US this side of the Super Bowl (for the first time in 20 years) and there seems to be greater interest in the lacrosse season which hasn't even started yet.

To each his own.
[/quote]
Perhaps it's in part because the lacrosse team has historically demonstrated the ability to achieve some success in its sport's post-season tournament (e.g., three national championships and many Final Four appearances, the latest just last year) whereas basketball will with almost certainty follow the Ivy League's standard one-and-out pattern.

[KeithK]

[quote jksnake06]I'm just stunned that Cornell is trying to make the most popular sporting event in the US this side of the Super Bowl (for the first time in 20 years) and there seems to be greater interest in the lacrosse season which hasn't even started yet.[/quote]
It shouldn't really be that surprising.  For all that the squeakball team is having a fabulous year the odds of them winning even one game in the tournament are pretty long.  The lacrosse team, on the other hand, was a legitimate contender for the national title last year and came pretty damn close to making the finals.  All things being equal it makes sense to be more interested in the sport where your school has better long term prospects.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote KeithK][quote jksnake06]I'm just stunned that Cornell is trying to make the most popular sporting event in the US this side of the Super Bowl (for the first time in 20 years) and there seems to be greater interest in the lacrosse season which hasn't even started yet.[/quote]
It shouldn't really be that surprising.  For all that the squeakball team is having a fabulous year the odds of them winning even one game in the tournament are pretty long.  The lacrosse team, on the other hand, was a legitimate contender for the national title last year and came pretty damn close to making the finals.  All things being equal it makes sense to be more interested in the sport where your school has better long term prospects.[/quote]


Not to mention that lacrosse is just a much better sport

(or, to say it non-biasedly, naturally appears that way to a bunch of people who are primarily ice hockey fans)

[CornellFan]

(1) I am not promoting my blog on here.  I am promoting Cornell basketball.  

(2) ALL of my articles on the blog have links.  Click on the underlined text and you will be linked to the original source.

Why do I paste the articles on the blog rather than only having links?  Here is the answer:  

(a) Sometimes the 3rd party websites remove the article after a few days (e.g. the Ithaca Journal does this).  Thus, by placing the article on my site, it is always available in the archive.

(b) Most of the Blog's readers like the fact that they don't have to jump around to 100 websites.  They jump on the Blog and all of the articles are right there.

(c) By placing an article in my blog's archive, I allow the readers to "search" my blog for relevant information (using the search feature).  Thus, the Blog becomes a central depository of Cornell basketball information.  If you want to search "Alex Compton" or "Newman Arena"-- then every article ever written on those terms will pop up.

Sorry all of you are not happy with the blog's format... but I tend to think it works quite well.  And I only have Cornell Basketball's interests at heart.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote KeithK]It shouldn't really be that surprising.  For all that the squeakball team is having a fabulous year the odds of them winning even one game in the tournament are pretty long.  The lacrosse team, on the other hand, was a legitimate contender for the national title last year and came pretty damn close to making the finals.  All things being equal it makes sense to be more interested in the sport where your school has better long term prospects.[/quote]
I guess another way to look at it would be to say:  If the basketball team had made it to the NCAA Final Four last year, there'd be one helluva lot more enthusiasm for this year's team here on eLynah.

[jksnake06]

Fair enough.

I would point out, though, that there are 56 D1 lacrosse teams (so, more than a quarter make the tournament) and 59 D1 hockey teams.

By comparison, there are 340 Division 1 Men's basketball teams.  Cornell's RPI is currently #81.  Making the field of 65 is no small achievement- I'd put it at least on par with a tournament appearance in hockey or lacrosse.

I guess its mostly that I love basketball so much that I have difficulty understanding how anyone prefers another sport.  I may be the only Cornell fan ever who once left a tight hockey game early to go watch a relatively meaningless basketball game a few years ago.

To each his own.

[CornellFan]

There are actually 341 Division I basketball teams-- PLUS--- there are an additional six teams in the "exploratory" phase.  These six teams are not counted in the RPI.  Thus-- in actuality, we are talking 347 D-Is in basketball.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=774207

Its pretty damn hard getting one of those 65 bids.