The Rest of the ECAC Year, Updated 3/1

[Jim Hyla]

The best place to work out the full ECAC year is at John Whelan's ECAC Playoff Possibilities Script

However, back before the days of computers (yes they did play hockey way back then, and some of us were even watching it), I used to always wait for "The Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter" to come out with their issue showing the standings and the remaining games. I still find it an easy way to watch and think about upcoming weeks.

If you see mistakes, let me know.

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  PTS ECAC REST OF THE YEAR
CLK 31 14-4-3 QUN
PRN 28 14-7-0 @SLU
HVD 25 11-7-3 @COR
UNI 25 10-6-5 @BRN
COR 25 13-8-1 HVD
QUN 22 9-8-4 @CLK
YLE 20 8-9-4 RPI
CLG 21 8-8-5 DRT
RPI 15      6-12-3 @YLE
SLU 14 6-13-2 PRN
BRN 13 5-13-3 UNI
DRT 13 5-13-3 @CLG




Now, after looking at this you can all go put in your choices in John's script. Have fun.

[ursusminor]

I remember living here in DC and sometimes not finding out RPI scores for a couple of weeks until the IcHN showed up. It makes one understand how the Battle of New Orleans could have been fought after the War of 1812 had ended.

The editor/publisher, Don Birkmayer, followed Ned Harkness about 30 years later in moving from Troy to Ithaca.

[marty]

[quote ursusminor]
The editor/publisher, Don Birkmayer, followed Ned Harkness about 30 years later in moving from Troy to Ithaca.[/quote]

Editor/publisher of what?  I only knew him as the Houston announcer.  (Thread drift award?)

[Trotsky]

[quote marty][quote ursusminor]
The editor/publisher, Don Birkmayer, followed Ned Harkness about 30 years later in moving from Troy to Ithaca.[/quote]

Editor/publisher of what?  I only knew him as the Houston announcer.  (Thread drift award?)[/quote]IcHN, a fantastic college hockey resource from the old days.  Weekly, typewritten on colored paper, zero production value, zero fluff.  It was the inspiration for the original paper version of TBRW.  He did it from the 60's (maybe earlier) through the early 90's.

I had no idea Don wound up in Ithaca.  I thought IcHN was published from Troy for its whole tenure.

Here's a picture from Stutt's RPI book.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Trotsky][quote marty][quote ursusminor]
The editor/publisher, Don Birkmayer, followed Ned Harkness about 30 years later in moving from Troy to Ithaca.[/quote]

Editor/publisher of what?  I only knew him as the Houston announcer.  (Thread drift award?)[/quote]IcHN, a fantastic college hockey resource from the old days.  Weekly, typewritten on colored paper, zero production value, zero fluff.  It was the inspiration for the original paper version of TBRW.  He did it from the 60's (maybe earlier) through the early 90's.

I had no idea Don wound up in Ithaca.  I thought IcHN was published from Troy for its whole tenure.

Here's a picture from Stutt's RPI book.[/quote]Ralph may know better, but I think he moved after publication ceased.

[ursusminor]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Trotsky][quote marty][quote ursusminor]
The editor/publisher, Don Birkmayer, followed Ned Harkness about 30 years later in moving from Troy to Ithaca.[/quote]

Editor/publisher of what?  I only knew him as the Houston announcer.  (Thread drift award?)[/quote]IcHN, a fantastic college hockey resource from the old days.  Weekly, typewritten on colored paper, zero production value, zero fluff.  It was the inspiration for the original paper version of TBRW.  He did it from the 60's (maybe earlier) through the early 90's.

I had no idea Don wound up in Ithaca.  I thought IcHN was published from Troy for its whole tenure.

Here's a picture from Stutt's RPI book.[/quote]Ralph may know better, but I think he moved after publication ceased.[/quote]
Someone else was the editor and publisher the last few years. He was still in Troy as long as he was editor/publisher.

Without climbing up to a high shelf to look at the copies that I have, I am pretty sure it came out only every two weeks as there were only about a dozen issues per year at most.

[mttgrmm]

unless I'm reading this totally wrong, the Cornell line should read:


COR   19   9-6-1   UNI   RPI   @QUN   @PRN   DRT   HVD


thanks for putting the list together.

[Trotsky]

Personally, I prefer "Qpc," in the abbreviational tradition of "Pgh."

[ursusminor]

[quote Trotsky]Personally, I prefer "Qpc," in the abbreviational tradition of "Pgh."[/quote] I prefer FDT for their nickname. ;-)


Edit: Or is it SDT?

[lynah80]

Very nice summary.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote mttgrmm]unless I'm reading this totally wrong, the Cornell line should read:


COR   19   9-6-1   UNI   RPI   @QUN   @PRN   DRT   HVD


thanks for putting the list together.[/quote]

Thank you, you're obviously correct. I changed it a few times until I finally did Excel to make it come out legibly. Screwed it up with a change, I guess. If anyone else has a correction, let me know.

[ShardZ]

we will have a difficult time vaulting into second or third, but if we win 4 games we should finish fourth.

I disagree, I think 2nd or 3rd are both plausible.  In my mind, a win against either Princeton or Q-pac would make it very possible for us to jump over that team.  They are each only 3 ahead...with the win we'd only need a single point that they don't get over the other 5 games, and both of them have @CLK left.  
I remember not being overly impressed with Q when they were in Lynah earlier this year (though I cant remember any details at the moment).  And having been at both ECAC Clarkson games this year, where they beat us two different ways, I unfortunately have high expectations for the Knights for the remainder of the season.  I am confident in their ability to "help us" with a win in their own arena, at least against Q.  So at the very least, taking 3rd from Q should be doable.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote ShardZ]

we will have a difficult time vaulting into second or third, but if we win 4 games we should finish fourth.

I disagree, I think 2nd or 3rd are both plausible.  In my mind, a win against either Princeton or Q-pac would make it very possible for us to jump over that team.  They are each only 3 ahead...with the win we'd only need a single point that they don't get over the other 5 games, and both of them have @CLK left.  
I remember not being overly impressed with Q when they were in Lynah earlier this year (though I cant remember any details at the moment).  And having been at both ECAC Clarkson games this year, where they beat us two different ways, I unfortunately have high expectations for the Knights for the remainder of the season.  I am confident in their ability to "help us" with a win in their own arena, at least against Q.  So at the very least, taking 3rd from Q should be doable.[/quote]

I would agree that it's possible, but arguing over semantics::looking::, I'd say plausible is  more difficult::screwy::. We (Q,P and us) all play Dmth and Hvd. Let's assume we do the same against those common opponents. Then we beat one of the two, Q or P, and both of them beat Colgate. So one of them is 5 points ahead of us with 2 other games left. So, second is out. Since we both, meaning us and which ever (Q,P) team we beat, got 2 points from our series against them, we are still 3 points behind with 2 other games.  God, this is beginning to sound like counting delegates in the primaries. Could we do it, yes. Would it be difficult, yes.

I guess my point is that it'll require a lot of help from other teams.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote ShardZ]

we will have a difficult time vaulting into second or third, but if we win 4 games we should finish fourth.

I disagree, I think 2nd or 3rd are both plausible.  In my mind, a win against either Princeton or Q-pac would make it very possible for us to jump over that team.  They are each only 3 ahead...with the win we'd only need a single point that they don't get over the other 5 games, and both of them have @CLK left.  
I remember not being overly impressed with Q when they were in Lynah earlier this year (though I cant remember any details at the moment).  And having been at both ECAC Clarkson games this year, where they beat us two different ways, I unfortunately have high expectations for the Knights for the remainder of the season.  I am confident in their ability to "help us" with a win in their own arena, at least against Q.  So at the very least, taking 3rd from Q should be doable.[/quote]

I would agree that it's possible, but arguing over semantics::looking::, I'd say plausible is  more difficult::screwy::. We (Q,P and us) all play Dmth and Hvd. Let's assume we do the same against those common opponents. Then we beat one of the two, Q or P, and both of them beat Colgate. So one of them is 5 points ahead of us with 2 other games left. So, second is out. Since we both, meaning us and which ever (Q,P) team we beat, got 2 points from our series against them, we are still 3 points behind with 2 other games.  God, this is beginning to sound like counting delegates in the primaries. Could we do it, yes. Would it be difficult, yes.

I guess my point is that it'll require a lot of help from other teams.[/quote]

Well, we got that help. If only we had helped ourselves. I've updated the first post, after results from this weekends games.

[daredevilcu]

Clarkson, Princeton, Quinnipiac, and Cornell have all locked up home ice in the playoffs for at least the first round.  None of them can finish worse than 8th.  

Also, SLU, RPI, Brown, and Dartmouth will all be playing in the first weekend.  None of them can break into the top 4, although all have a chance at home ice.  With one more win, Colgate could seal that off and make it so only SLU has a shot at it.  Big gap this year between 1-8 and 9-12 this late.  As early as Friday next week we could know who's going on the road for the first round.

All teams, 1-8, are within striking distance of first place.  Hooray ECAC, always taking it down to the final game of the final weekend and beyond.