Colgate 1 at Cornell 2 - Postgame

[upperdeck]

colgate fans have had an issue over the years of really making it hard for others to see especially during playoff games... Was this in section O again?  one year they moved all the section season ticket holders down in front before colgate came so they could stand all they wanted behind them..

[DeltaOne81]

[quote sah67]
According the collegehockeystats.net box score (which shows penalties), none of the EAGs seem to be on delayed penalties, unless Princeton managed to maintain possession for 1 minute 38 seconds, seeing as the first EAG was at 12:58, and the penalty was called back at 11:20.[/quote]

Try again, sah - the 'penalty time' isn't until the whistle blows to end play. I don't know if its what happened or not, but it could have been a delayed penalty that was about to cause a 5x3, and so they had an extra attacker - so the man power on the ice was 6x4 - hence EA/PPG.

Or maybe they did indeed just pull the goalie. Perhaps the recap will tell us for sure.

[Trotsky]

The box shows 4.5 minutes of empty net time for Princeton.  Impressive to not let up a single SOG for that long.

[lynah80]

Personally, I think it's better if the TV media leaves the players alone during intermission.  It breaks their concentration and separates them from the team when they should be talking about strategies that their opponents are using.  Also, you never know who needs to have a pad adjusted or an "unmentionable" changed, etc during intermission.  I like the fact that Jason records his interviews before the games.  It shows a lot of respect for the players.

[Rita]

[quote sah67]

Tech is up 1-0 on CC in the 1st.

February 1st and Bruno finally manages their 2nd win of the year...and it's against Sucks![/quote]

North Dakota beats the Gophers in Minnesota 2-1 in OT. The player who scored the game winner looked like he dived and batted the puck in.. sort of like a second baseman diving for a low line drive.

[Trotsky]

With the win, Schafer is now 98th alltime in wins for a D-1 coach.  Note that fellow active ECAC coaches Pecknold, Gaudet and Vaugh are all in the 90's.  Mike is currently 45th alltime in winning percentage.

[Beeeej]

[quote Trotsky]With the win, Schafer is now 98th alltime in wins for a D-1 coach.  Note that fellow active ECAC coaches Pecknold, Gaudet and Vaugh are all in the 90's.  Mike is currently 45th alltime in winning percentage.[/quote]

He's probably be up to 96th or so by now; the list you linked to doesn't include the current season's wins.

[Jacob 03]

[quote Trotsky]The box shows 4.5 minutes of empty net time for Princeton.  Impressive to not let up a single SOG for that long.[/quote]I remember an abysmal weekend when Cornell did that on Friday and then for two more minutes on Saturday.

[Chris '03]

[quote Jacob 03][quote Trotsky]The box shows 4.5 minutes of empty net time for Princeton.  Impressive to not let up a single SOG for that long.[/quote]I remember an abysmal weekend when Cornell did that on Friday and then for two more minutes on Saturday.[/quote]

Apparently it was closer to six minutes of empty net that sorry new jersey night.

[Avash]

The Princeton extra-attacker goals were not on delayed penalties; if they were, the collegehockeystats.net box score would say EA DP (e.g. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0708/boxes/mdenmin1.n02 )

[ugarte]

[quote DeltaOne81][quote sah67]
According the collegehockeystats.net box score (which shows penalties), none of the EAGs seem to be on delayed penalties, unless Princeton managed to maintain possession for 1 minute 38 seconds, seeing as the first EAG was at 12:58, and the penalty was called back at 11:20.[/quote]

Try again, sah - the 'penalty time' isn't until the whistle blows to end play. I don't know if its what happened or not, but it could have been a delayed penalty that was about to cause a 5x3, and so they had an extra attacker - so the man power on the ice was 6x4 - hence EA/PPG.

Or maybe they did indeed just pull the goalie. Perhaps the recap will tell us for sure.[/quote]

Princeton Goaltending     1st    2nd    3rd    Total    Minutes GA
 Zane Kalemba (L,9-6-0)   10    5    0    15    36:43    4
 Thomas Sychterz     0    0    1    1    15:37    0
 EMPTY NET                      0    0:38    0
 Thomas Sychterz     0    0    0    0    0:58    0
 EMPTY NET                      0    0:54    0
 Thomas Sychterz     0    0    1    1    1:55    0
 EMPTY NET                      0    3:15    0 

So, a penalty was called at 11:20 of the third, which started a power play and then one minute later, Sychterz left the ice. That had to be because It was about to be 5x3, but Princeton scored the EAG 38 seconds later.

After the goal, he came out again for 58 seconds and then left the ice and Princeton got another EAG 54 seconds later. Sounds like another delayed penalty to me, because Sychterz came out for two more minutes after that at which point he came off for good, and Princeton protected the empty net for over 3 minutes, which is impressive in itself.

Edit: Unless Avash is right. Since it makes sense to send the goalie out to make sure that P would wait to win the faceoff/get possession before pulling the goalie.

Edit: The Princeton recap doesn't mention any delayed penalty - but also really underplays how impressive 7 minutes of protecting an empty net is.

Edit: Neither does the Union recap, so props to Avash. Union's recapper was similarly blase about Princeton pulling its goalie with 7 minutes to go.

[sah67]

Somewhat related to the discussion of pulling goalies, I was reading Big Red Puckhead's nightly recaps of games featuring Cornell recruits, and the score of 13-4 stood out, with the Hamilton Red Wings defeating Oakville (with 2008 recruit Braden Birch on their roster).

Out of curiosity I looked up the game recap on Hamilton's website, and found the following quote:

"Scott Greenham started in net for Oakville and made 10 saves before he was pulled in favour of Oliver Wren at 14:49 in the first period. Wren made 17 saves and was ejected from the game at the end of the second period for receiving an abuse of officials game misconduct. Greenham was unable to come back into net in the third period due to injury. Defenceman Scott Judson was forced to go in net. He played the whole period and made six saves."

Has anyone heard of a defenseman (or forward for that matter) being forced to play goal in a situation like this?  Does the NCAA rulebook even deal with such a situation?  

I'm just glad we have DiLeo around on the bench

[lynah80]

I think there were a number of significant penalties that weren't called last night.

1) At 13:15 in the second period, Scali was mauled by a Colgate player.  The Colgate player jumped on his back, wrapped his arm around Joe and pulled him down to the ice.  It wasn't subtle.

2) The hit on M Kennedy at 12:59 in the 3rd period looked like "contact to the head" to me.  I've watched the replay several times and I don't agree with Jason that it was a clean hit.  It was too high.  Why would Kennedy stay down on the ice for so long if his head wasn't hit?  

3) At 12:30 in the third period Joe Scali charged the net and was clearly tripped.  13 Seconds later, Mugford was called for cross-checking, which led to the Colgate goal.

4) Punches were thrown several times by players from both teams during scuffles.  That warrants 5 minutes.  

The black and white need to call a tighter game tonight in Hamilton, not only because it impacts the outcome of the game, but more important, because the safety of the players depends on it.

[Trigger]

According to goalie stats, there was a netminder for about 55 minutes, which means it is possible that Princeton pulled the sieve with 7 left, and only put him back periodically when there was a face-off in their own end. I'm surprised they'd do that when down 4 goals in a non-playoff game, but that shows Princeton will aggressively pursue wins against anyone.

[Trigger]

It had to happen one of these games. A few years ago, at Starr, their chant of choice was simply "f&%$ You Cor-Nell". Figured that could get an entire section kicked out of Lynah. And NO, I don't think Colgate students are smart enough not to do something that idiotic.