Duke players get extra year of eligibility

Started by johnny923, May 30, 2007, 03:39:13 PM

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johnny923

Wow...the NCAA gives them an extra year after the University cancelled their season.  The NCAA never sides with players but gives this group of kids who (although there was no rape) were still at fault another year despite the fact that the University cancelled their season and that they played over 50% of their season anyway.  While it's nice to see the NCAA side with their athletes (as opposed to screwing people over like Mike Williams from USC) they screwed the pooch on this one.

NCAA Grants Duke Extra Year of Eligibility

Jacob '06


DeltaOne81


ugarte

Totally fucking nuts. Some kid gets a sandwich from a coach, he is gone for good. A school cancels their own season and the players get a bonus year.

The only players who deserve the extra year are Seligman and Finnerty.

Chris '03

Wow. This is some sort of sick joke, right? Maybe the Cornell should just can the hockey season some time for some lewd behavior and then the team will have extra depth to make a title run going forward.

I wonder if the decision would have been different had Duke won on Monday.

Being a pro skier means you can't play football... but having your season taken away by YOUR OWN UNIVERSITY is good enough cause for an extra year? I feel for the other 50+ teams next year who will be playing by different rules.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

ugarte

[quote Chris '03]I feel for the other 50+ teams next year  who will be playing by different rules for the next three years.[/quote]
FYP.

Rita

[quote DeltaOne81]That's fucking ridiculous.[/quote]

Ditto.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ESPN.GOAlso on Wednesday, a Duke alumnus bought a full-page ad in USA Today to show support for the program. The headline on the ad reads, "For a team very few people stood by, how about a standing ovation?"

Talk about f**king ridiculous. Although I was for Duke in the finals, I guess I'm glad they did not have the chance to also proclaim themselves as champions as well. Now to root against them for next year, let's get started.
Suddenly I'm a fan of Quint, keep telling it like it is.
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Chris '03

[quote ugarte][quote Chris '03]I feel for the other 50+ teams next year  who will be playing by different rules for the next three years.[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]

But what if all the teams except Duke cancel their seasons next year when it's clear Duke will run the table to make it even for '09 and '10? :-P
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

KeithK

So the University wrongly cancels a sports season over a rape allegation that turns out to be fraudulent and the (not-guilty) kids should bear the loss?  I fail to see how the kids were "still at fault". Unless you think college parties are by definition bad (and if so I'm sure we can suspend the vast majority of big time college athletes, including Cornell hockey players).

The only thing that bothers me about this is that the University doesn't suffer for their over-reaction.  Maybe offer the affected players an additional year of eligibility onlyif they play for a different school.

You can argue that the NCAA is too harsh in most cases.  But not here.

ugarte

They played 8 games, Keith. That is more than half a season. They deny medical redshirts to players who have played less than a quarter of a team's games. They aren't restoring a season, they are giving the players a new shot at a championship.

If it were Harvard instead of Duke, and there was no realistic chance of a postseason appearance, would the petition have even made sense?

Chris '03

[quote ugarte]They played 8 games, Keith. That is more than half a season. They deny medical redshirts to players who have played less than a quarter of a team's games. They aren't restoring a season, they are giving the players a new shot at a championship.
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Furthermore, think of all the records that could be tainted by this. Danowski could break all sorts of scoring records because he'll likely get to play 80+ (13, 20, 8, 19, ?) games in his career. I'm not sure that's ever happened before. Greer stands to play even more total games. This is sounding way too much like the screwed up selection criteria... sheesh.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

KeithK

So if Duek had cancelled their season earlier you would've been fine this solution? The Duke players got screwed by their administration in 2006. It's not unreasonable to want to make it up to them. Given the tools available regarding eligibility it's hard to come up with any other solution. Like I said, they could allow the players to have an extra year of eligibility only at another school. Or maybe allow them half a year of eligibilty (second half, since that's what they lost)?

As for career scoring records, who cares?  Everyone would know the circumstances and put in the mental asterisk.

Josh '99

Fucking absurd.  Can this please be the end of the lovefest?  ::yark::

If everyone hadn't been in such a hurry to judge them in the first place, we wouldn't have to be dealing with this now.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

KeithK

[quote Josh '99]If everyone hadn't been in such a hurry to judge them in the first place, we wouldn't have to be dealing with this now.[/quote]
That I can definitely agree with.