[s]Two[/s] Three more recruits.

[pfibiger]

[quote scannon]Does anyone know how Heisenbergs rankings work because it looks like Mike Devin in the highest ranked defenseman in the BCHL and I swear he wasn't last time I checked.[/quote]

There isn't much rhyme or reason to the list, Chris seems to just shuffle them around as his opinion shifts. It's a pretty loose ranking anyway, especially for leagues he doesn't follow as closely. Joe Devin also used to be ranked ahead of his brother, now is quite a bit below.

[peterg]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann]That has to be the son (or nephew or whatever) of Jeff Roeszler, the most underrated Cornell player of the modern era IMO. Nice.[/quote]

Tyler is Geoff's son.

[calgARI '07]

The WOHL is a Junior B league but Roezler's numbers are pretty exceptional and not all that different from what Moulson put up his last year in Junior B. The comparisons probably end there as they play different positions and Moulson is six inches taller but the numbers are impressive.

[Swampy]

[quote rstott]Roeszler looks like a really good pickup, but what's the reputation of the WOJHL?[/quote]

This should put your mind at ease: WOHL Alumni

Let's hope that this post, in a debate over whether Roeszler should have been MVP, is accurate:

First Roeszler is the m.v.p no doubt, The kid is on an "ok" team and puts up top numbers destroying Campbell by what, 18 points? Roeszler is a threat everytime he steps on the ice. Every team knows to key on him yet nobody can shut him out. As far as consistency, get real, you dont get 113 points by being inconsistant.

(WOHL Forum)


Then again, there is always this: Heisenberg's 2008 Preview (Scroll down to 2008 preview -- Philadelphia has nothing on Ithaca these days!)

[evilnaturedrobot]

doesn't this give us 1 more forward than the team usually carries?

[redhair34]

[quote calgARI '07]The WOHL is a Junior B league but Roezler's numbers are pretty exceptional and not all that different from what Moulson put up his last year in Junior B. The comparisons probably end there as they play different positions and Moulson is six inches taller but the numbers are impressive.[/quote]

For the sake of comparison, Cam and Chris Abbott averaged 1.34 and 1.43 points per game in their final season in the WOHL.  Roezler averaged 2.35 points per game this past season.

[billhoward]

Is this year's incoming freshman class as highly regarded as last year's? More so? Because for all our enthusiasm with the quantity of good freshmen of 2006-07, it was others -- Sean Brackman of Yale and Brandon Wong of Quinnipiac -- who were the ECAC rookies of they year, and only Brendon Nash who made the rookie team from Cornell. I'm not complaining too much about getting freshmen. Just that it would be nice to have a Zach Parise type stumble into Ithaca, too.

2006-07 ECACHL ALL LEAGUE TEAMS

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
G - Alex Petizian, St. Lawrence*
D - Alex Biega, Harvard
D - Brendon Nash, Cornell
F - Sean Backman, Yale*
F - T.J. Galiardi, Dartmouth
F - Brandon Wong, Quinnipiac
* - unanimous selection 

INDIVIDUAL & TEAM AWARDS
Player of the Year - Drew Bagnall, St. Lawrence
Ken Dryden Award - David Leggio, Clarkson
Co-Rookie of the Year - Sean Backman, Yale
Co-Rookie of the Year - Brandon Wong, Quinnipiac
Best Defensive Forward - Kyle Rank, St. Lawrence
Best Defensive Defenseman - Drew Bagnall, St. Lawrence
Tim Taylor Coach of the Year - Joe Marsh, St. Lawrence*
Student-Athlete of the Year - Olivier Bouchard, Union
Turfer Athletic Trophy - St. Lawrence

FIRST-TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
G - David Leggio, Clarkson
D - Reid Cashman, Quinnipiac
D - Drew Bagnall, St. Lawrence*
F - David Jones, Dartmouth*
F - Kyle Rank, St. Lawrence
F - Nick Dodge, Clarkson

SECOND-TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
G - Mark Dekanich, Colgate
G - Alex Petizian, St. Lawrence 
D - Sean Hurley, Brown
D - Dylan Reese, Harvard
F - Tyler Burton, Colgate
F - Jeff Prough, Brown
F - Jesse Winchester, Colgate 

THIRD-TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
D - Ben Lovejoy, Dartmouth
D - Jake Luthi, Rensselaer
F - Sean Backman, Yale
F - Byron Bitz, Cornell
F - Brandon Wong, Quinnipiac

[bothman]

No offense, but this is defintiely a "down" year for Cornell recruiting.  Riley Nash is an impact guy, no question, but last year at several high end recruits (at least on paper).  These guys - Berk, Nicholls, and Roezler all seem to be fairly low-end.  They are ranked incredibly low by Heisenberg whose rankings are generally accurate, with some exceptions on both sides of the coin....Heck, RIT has recruits ranked higher than these guys.  These three appear to be a 4th line checking line to me.

You never know until they dress, but after Nash, Cornell doesn't appear have a lot to hang its hat on.  I don't think this class is even in the Top 4 in the ECAC this year.  Dartmouth, Clarkson, Harvard, and Princeton are all better and you could argue a few others as well.

Just my 2 cents

[scannon]

I disagree; Nash, Roezler (2+ points/game) and Mike Devin (highest BCHL D-man in heisenberg's list) all look pretty good. The rest, we'll see but I wouldn't say this was a weak class at all.

They may not be as good as this year (I'm not saying they're not either) but we can't always have recruiting classes that contribute 80pts in their first season.

[pfibiger]

You're crazy. Nash is not just an impact guy, he's an elite prospect and alone brings up the recruiting class dramatically. Patrick Kennedy was poised to have a really big year, and was slowed by mono. Mike Devin has proved himself to be an impact defenseman in the BCHL, and Jordan Berk got really big minutes in Salmon Arm. A mobile puck moving defenseman, he put up numbers almost identical to Brendon Nash last year. Roeszler has put up unreal numbers in the WOHL. I agree with you about Nicholls, but he wasn't recruited to be an offensive phenom.

Heisenberg's rankings fluctuate and are vague at best. I'm pleased with how this recruiting class turned out,

[ugarte]

[quote bothman]Just my 2 cents[/quote]
That's cool. I'm willing to settle it on the ice.

[bothman]

You may be right and you never really know until the puck is dropped, but on paper this class is not as good as last year's (this does not include 2008 recruits).  Again, this class on paper is not a Top 4 ECAC class this year.

Look at Princeton, Clarkson, Harvard, and Dartmouth.....even RPI.

Speaking of which, does anyone do a recruiting rankings by league?  I'd be curious how the so-called experts rank the 2007 classes for the ECAC schools.

[Harrier]

Yes, apparently you do.

[Trotsky]

Before (or, anyway, while) we all jump down bothman's throat, he's obviously entitled to his opinion, which has been expressed respectfully, and he's a longtime contributor and clearly not a troll.

[Trotsky]

[quote bothman]They are ranked incredibly low by Heisenberg whose rankings are generally accurate, with some exceptions[/quote]

Of course, Chris also included the following statement in his blog:

Riley Nash seems to be down to two programs, North Dakota and Denver, with his preference for an 07 or 08 arrival also up in the air

Heisenberg is an invaluable source as a scorecard for what recruits have gone where -- really, one of the most useful (and most well-researched) sites on the net.  But where are these comparative rankings of players that you speak of?  All I have seen are his "to" and "from" lists of players.

I have been looking for a ranking mechanism of recruiting classes for the TBRW predictions for years.