Cornell/BU Thanksgiving (11/24) Ticket Info

[ugarte]

[quote Josh '99][quote RichH][Q]"New York City is just not a college sports town," Fanter said. "Something could work there, but not this."[/Q][/quote]New York does just fine with the Big East basketball tournament.  The problem isn't that New York can't ever get behind college sports, the problem is that there's no local rooting interest in college hockey.  Saturday's game gets around that by picking schools with HUGE alumni bases and scheduling it on a weekend when lots of students will be home and alumni will be able to make travel plans.[/quote]
New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of. When St. John's isn't good, MSG only sells out because Big East teams like Syracuse and Connecticut travel well and fill MSG. I don't think that all of the games at Alumni Hall - a great place to watch a game - always sell out these days.

Have you been to The Big East tournament? It doesn't prove that NYC is a college sports town; it proves that Storrs, Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Washington DC are good college sports towns. I used to go to the ECAC Holiday Festival every year over Christmas. St. John's played almost every year, as did some of the best teams in the country.  I never had to buy my tickets in advance.

[RichH]

[quote ugarte]New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of.[/quote]

Well, it did sort of embrace Rutgers during their run last season...I seem to remember them turning the Empire State Building's lights to match Rutgers's colors at some point.

But I agree with your first statement.  Even LA, which is probably the US city that cares about sports the least, gets up for big college events with USC and UCLA.  NYU (Go Violets!?) and Columbia don't really cut it on the national sports radar.  But you know what?  I'm perfectly *fine* with NYC not being a big college sports town...in fact, I prefer it.  It's a great pro sports town.  No need for NY tabloid hype to get people not associated with the school to care superfically about and corrupt monetarily a school based on athletics.  NYU, Columbia, Yeshiva, Fordham, etc. are all great a being what they're supposed to be: educational institutions.  Not jock factories who exploit the system for bucks and publicity.  I wouldn't want it any other way.  [/soapbox]

Here's a theory just bouncing around my head: Americans tend to gravitate towards schools with their state name as a source of local/regional pride.  New York State (SUNY) really doesn't have that one BIG sports name.  In fact, the SUNY label is rather poisonous...which is why Albany, Buffalo, and Binghamton have all done name changes to drop the SUNY, and why the "SUNY Ithaca" chant is supposed to be derisive.

Going around the map, here's a list of states where the " University" "University of " or " State University" doesn't have (what I consider) a major football/basketball/hockey team (I'll parenthetically put the team that I think most average folks in the state lean towards):

New York (Syracuse U.)
Rhode Island (Providence College)
New Jersey (Rutgers...I know it's a state school but nobody calls it "New Jersey State")
South Dakota (?)
Montana (?)
Wyoming (?)
Idaho (Boise State)

good god, is it Saturday yet??

[Jim Hyla]

[quote BCrespi][quote RichH]No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  [/quote]

Couldn't agree more, though I'll say I'm more excited for the "RED" in the anthem than anything else.[/quote]

Well, don't get too disappointed if it's not overwhelming cheering. Remember, 90% of the "fans" probably haven't been to a game in years, maybe some never. Some of them may be old enough to get annoyed with a loud Red during the National Anthem, if so, so be it. But I don't expect it will even be as loud as a good Lynah night. A couple of thousand screamers can get lost amongst 15,000 sitters.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

[RichH]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote BCrespi][quote RichH]No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  [/quote]

Couldn't agree more, though I'll say I'm more excited for the "RED" in the anthem than anything else.[/quote]

Well, don't get too disappointed if it's not overwhelming cheering. Remember, 90% of the "fans" probably haven't been to a game in years, maybe some never. Some of them may be old enough to get annoyed with a loud Red during the National Anthem, if so, so be it. But I don't expect it will even be as loud as a good Lynah night. A couple of thousand screamers can get lost amongst 15,000 sitters.

Hopefully I'm wrong.[/quote]

Yep, that thought crossed my mind also.  Well, hopefully, the geriatric "facetimers" can find enough energy to rattle their jewelry or dig out that fur coat that got splattered with red paint from PETA protesters a few years back.  ;-)

[ugarte]

[quote RichH][quote ugarte]New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of.[/quote]

Well, it did sort of embrace Rutgers during their run last season...[/quote]
Sort of ... but not really. That was bandwagon behavior. "During their run" means a lot more in that sentence than "Rutgers." The same thing happens every time Manhattan puts together a decent basketball team, but the truth is the city doesn't care about Manhattan basketball any more than country cares about women's curling if we can't make a plausible claim to be a medal contender.

Going around the map, here's a list of states where the " University" "University of " or " State University" doesn't have (what I consider) a major football/basketball/hockey team (I'll parenthetically put the team that I think most average folks in the state lean towards):

New York (Syracuse U.)
Rhode Island (Providence College)
New Jersey (Rutgers...I know it's a state school but nobody calls it "New Jersey State")
South Dakota (?)
Montana (?)
Wyoming (?)
Idaho (Boise State)

Wyoming has a legit D-I basketball program (certainly as successful as anything Alaska does in hockey), Idaho has real in-state support (though Boise State has certainly been a lot better of late) and I think you are underrating Rhode Island's in-state support.

Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it. I'll never understand why they didn't change the name (unless it was a condition of sale).

[Trotsky]

[quote ugarte]Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it.[/quote]Very similar to what happened with Lowell Tech a decade ago, when Massachusetts bought it and reduced it to UML.

Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::

[Rita]

[quote Trotsky][quote ugarte]Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it.[/quote]Very similar to what happened with Lowell Tech a decade ago, when Massachusetts bought it and reduced it to UML.

Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

It's okay... as long as you are not covered with dirt. ;-)

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Trotsky]Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

So, what does that make Al and me. No, don't answer that.

Happy Thanksgiving from my household as well.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Trotsky]Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

So, what does that make Al and me.
[/quote]
Methu...?  Never mind.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Beeeej]"The Cornell Club-New York has a limited number of tickets in a MSG luxury suite.

Tickets are $75 each and include the cost of the ticket only.  Please contact Kerry Strassel for availability at 212.692.1381 or k.strassel@cornellclubnyc.com."[/quote]

So what does that mean, cash bar? ::drunk::

[sah67]

Not that it matters now with the supposed sell-out, but has anyone else noticed that the game is two days away, and yet MSG's homepage has absolutely no mention of the game or any related advertisements?  It's not even on the "featured schedule" of upcoming events.  Clearly the 1/18 Rascal Flatts concert is a much bigger deal.  Even clicking on the "Sporting events" sub-menu brings up absolutely no references at all to the game.

But really, regardless of how well the event has sold, it just seems like there's a whole lot of "we don't really give a crap" coming from the MSG higher-ups.


http://www.thegarden.com/

[Rich S]

[quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.

[Chris '03]

[quote Rich S][quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.[/quote]

Don't use bold unless you know what you're talking about.

Seating Capacity

For basketball events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 19,763 and for hockey events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 18,200. For all other events, seating capacity changes depending on the set-up of the event. For events in the Theater, the seating capacity is 5,600.

http://www.thegarden.com/faq/index.html

[Beeeej]

[quote Chris '03][quote Rich S][quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.[/quote]

Don't use bold unless you know what you're talking about.

Seating Capacity

For basketball events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 19,763 and for hockey events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 18,200. For all other events, seating capacity changes depending on the set-up of the event. For events in the Theater, the seating capacity is 5,600.

http://www.thegarden.com/faq/index.html[/quote]

Plus, it's not like I was guessing or speaking from memory - I got the number from the article to which I linked.  Granted, it was Cornell's article, not MSG's...  I'd have been perfectly happy to have accidentally been wrong.  But it sounds like I wasn't.

[Josh '99]

The lack of promotion on the web is odd, especially since it doesn't cost MSG anything to put it on their website, but I've definitely heard it advertised on the radio during a Rangers game once or twice.