Recruiting

calgARI '07 · March 01, 2007, 02:23:08 PM

[quote Trotsky]Without researching it, off hand I'd say the Lake State teams., which were built much in the style of (and inspired) Schafer 1.0 -- suffocating, total team defense, a great backstop, and the occasional bright light scorer. Because goalies and defensemen take longer to develop, it was more likely that those stars stayed all four years.

As the game opens up (and as we adopt Schafer 2.0), an even greater premium will be placed on skill guys -- the guys more likely to get the big bonus checks to jump.[/quote]

Brian Rolston and Doug Weight both left LSSU after two years and Bates Battaglia left after three.

Those teams were really good. Jeff Jackson is an unbelievable coach and recruiter if he was able to make Lake Superior State University a National Champion in anything. Now he's at Notre Dame and his impact has been almost immediate.

calgARI '07 · March 01, 2007, 02:26:47 PM

[quote KeithK]
I think when you go after a true blue chip player you have to assume that he will not stay for 4 years. Losing a player after two years to the pros doesn't hurt as much when the recruiting strategy plans for this. What hurts is when a guy tells you he's staying and then turns around and signs last minute.[/quote]

I definitely agree with you but there are certain types of players who I'd consider to be blue chip and will stay at their respective school for four years generally because lack of size. Tyler Burton immediately comes to mind. He was a very big recruit. St. Louis and Perrin are other good examples of big recruits who were very productive for four years. I guess it depends on how you define blue chip player but I consider those guys as blue chippers. It is definitely more the exception than the rule though.

redhair34 · March 02, 2007, 12:21:15 AM

http://siouxsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8046

Rita · March 02, 2007, 12:50:28 AM

[quote redhair34]http://siouxsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8046[/quote]
From the link posted above:
"Not here at UND we love our team, players, & school and it shows. If the Fighting Sioux played a regional semi-final in a Subsaharan Africa war zone you can bet that Sioux fans would still be there."

I can see it now, an olympic sheet of ice in sub-Sahara Africa and a bracket with Cornell, UND, the gophers and another team that has broken our hearts before (but it can't be Wisconsin, that would be 3 WHCA teams ;-)).

I'll leave it to others to comment on "siouxnami's" slamming of the Cornell hockey program.

Will · March 02, 2007, 01:21:23 AM

[quote Rita]I'll leave it to others to comment on "siouxnami's" slamming of the Cornell hockey program.[/quote]

I'm just amused that one fan felt so insecure about NoDak's academics that he had to quote articles stating how good the school is in certain areas. Then again, maybe I should just be glad that someone out west remembers that, in the term "college hockey", "college" comes first.

johnny923 · March 02, 2007, 02:04:35 AM

Didn't Reggie Bush just get USC in trouble (again) by contacting the top football recruit in the country? Telling Nash to contact Zajac...not smart.

Also, it may just be me, but I don't think the best way to get a kid to like your school is to bash other schools (especially the one that his brother goes to).

And...this may just be me, but if you are trying to say "you are" in a contraction, it is you're...not just your.

French Rage · March 02, 2007, 03:12:11 AM

Dear Riley Nash,

If you want a fanbase that exists outside the month of March, don't choose NoDak.

Sincerely,
Jesus McBuddha

Trotsky · March 02, 2007, 04:57:40 AM

If you've seen other western boards, that was tame. Look at Denver's excellent forum this week as they prepare for CC -- it's brutal.

Nobody's bothering to slam the Merrimack hockey program, if you catch my meaning.

Pete Godenschwager · March 02, 2007, 08:29:21 AM

[quote johnny923]Didn't Reggie Bush just get USC in trouble (again) by contacting the top football recruit in the country? Telling Nash to contact Zajac...not smart.

Also, it may just be me, but I don't think the best way to get a kid to like your school is to bash other schools (especially the one that his brother goes to).

And...this may just be me, but if you are trying to say "you are" in a contraction, it is you're...not just your.[/quote]

As I understand it, it's ok for the recruit to call somebody associated with the team. The calls going the other way are the ones that are usually restricted.

redhair34 · March 02, 2007, 09:23:34 AM

[quote Trotsky]If you've seen other western boards, that was tame.[/quote]

Yup. These folks are enlightened compared to those who frequent GPL.

ugarte · March 02, 2007, 10:05:25 AM

[quote Rita][quote redhair34]http://siouxsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8046[/quote]I can see it now, an olympic sheet of ice in sub-Sahara Africa and a bracket with Cornell, UND, the gophers and another team that has broken our hearts before (but it can't be Wisconsin, that would be 3 WHCA teams ;-)).[/quote]

Under those conditions, the fourth team in the regional is from the University of Subsaharan Africa.

ugarte · March 02, 2007, 10:08:55 AM

[quote Will]I'm just amused that one fan felt so insecure about NoDak's academics that he had to quote articles stating how good the school is in certain areas.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that he was insecure, I'd say he was embarrassed that someone would so casually dismiss UND as a University when making the pitch - particularly when the recruit has already shown interest in academically elite schools.

Think about the likely reaction here if we found out that a recruit was thinking about Harvard or Yale over Cornell - for engineering. I think that post is very similar to what a dozen people would post here simultaneously.

ryeguy · March 02, 2007, 04:08:58 PM

I know if I was a recruit, this "siouxnami" character would scare me away. It seems pretty childish and desperate (as redhair said) that a fan could even think this would work. Then again, I'm forgetting what kind of fans we are talking about here. Did you check and make sure this wasn't the "Sioux Hockey forum for Kids"?

Liz '05 · March 02, 2007, 07:06:52 PM

[quote Will][quote Rita]I'll leave it to others to comment on "siouxnami's" slamming of the Cornell hockey program.[/quote]

I'm just amused that one fan felt so insecure about NoDak's academics that he had to quote articles stating how good the school is in certain areas. Then again, maybe I should just be glad that someone out west remembers that, in the term "college hockey", "college" comes first.[/quote]

And I'm amused that the only "famous" alumnus whose name I recognize is Ralph Englestead.

I don't think there was much slamming going on there; it sounds more like a generic anti-east sentiment and a popular one at that, for good reason. Eastern programs haven't had the better programs in this decade and when comparing anyone's facilities to North Dakota, North Dakota will always win. Siouxnami is just starting a thread about recruiting Riley Nash.

The only person that scares me on that message board is "Big A HG,"
who apparently actually sent a message to Riley.::wtf::

ithacat · March 02, 2007, 10:54:13 PM

[quote Liz '05]The only person that scares me on that message board is "Big A HG,"
who apparently actually sent a message to Riley.::wtf::[/quote]

I believe if Big A is UND grad, season ticket holder, or booster, and the spirit of the contact is to influence RN's decision that might be an NCAA violation.

http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/genrel/072606aad.html