Cornell at Clarkson Post-game

[marty]

[quote ugarte][quote Rich S]
It's perfectly logical to remind posters here of that when they get on their high horse to rail against offensive behavior at Cheel.  Seems that some of you have forgotten just how vulgar many of the faithful have been although as I said earlier, it has gotten somewhat better in recent years in my experience.[/quote]Your string of "you too!" posts are silly and illogical. They are silly because they are being done solely to make you feel better about behavior that you know to be wrong*. [/quote]

Why this isn't an argument, its only contradiction.

No it isn't.

Yes, it is.

Isn't.

Is.....::popcorn::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl9zYS3_dc

[Rich S]

[quote French Rage]G-O-R-G-E-S.  It's on all the t-shirts.[/quote]

Right...except that it's U-G-L-Y downtown.

[Rich S]

That's a great spin there.

My comments are certainly both logical and anything but silly.

Yours is a "false presumption" that I need to make myself "feel better" about the behavior.  That's absurd.  I clearly stated that I disapprove of it as much as I have always disliked the garbage spewed at Lynah.  


What is there to "feel better" about?  I don't engage in it myself and I don't defend it at Cheel or anywhere else.

I recognize the several comments that have been made here that are critical of some of the Faithful's behavior.  The point was that it's disingenuous to throw stones at what happened at Cheel when behavior at Lynah has been no better.  As previously stated I believe, "served from the same menu."

My comments are both relevant and germane given the complaining much earlier that what has not recently been tolerated at Lynah sems to be permitted at Cheel and a rebuttal that what I heard and saw at Lynah last year didn't happen.  Once you introduce the comparison and the response, you've opened the discussion wide to points being made about what goes on at Lynah.

What I have to say is hardly a half-hearted defense and not at all deperate because I am NOT defending it at all.  I never have and this is at least the third time I've said that.

Hopefully you get it but since you feel that all the "asty comments" should be allowed, perhaps you can't.

Thanks for the contribution Marty, I loved it.  See you at HFH on ay perhaps?

[ftyuv]

marty, could you fix that url?  it's broken.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Rich S]Yours is a "false presumption" that I need to make myself "feel better" about the behavior.  That's absurd.  I clearly stated that I disapprove of it as much as I have always disliked the garbage spewed at Lynah.  

What is there to "feel better" about?  I don't engage in it myself and I don't defend it at Cheel or anywhere else.
[/quote]
You write about the Lynah behavior here ad nauseam, yet I've never seen you say word one on the Round Table about the goings-on at Cheel.  If you "disapprove" of the latter as much as you've tried to lead us to believe in this thread, why is that?

[Robb]

When I was in Ithaca over Christmas, my parents and I ran into a friend of theirs who is "in the know" on the Lynah ushers.  According to him, approximately 25 students have had their season tickets revoked this year in one section alone.

Lynah ushers patrol the aisles after practically every single penalty, trying to catch people saying "asshole," and during Gary Glitter as well.

The Lynah Faithful are definitely no angels (else such enforcement would not be required), but that's not even the issue.

The issue is that Cornell is taking steps to curtail it, and Clarkson isn't.  Hence, Cornell fans don't feel it's fair that they have to stand there and take what they're not allowed to dish out.

I think you'd find that the vast majority of Cornell students would prefer a no-holds-barred, anything-goes verbal melee - as long as it's a fair fight.  As it stands right now, that's not the case.

[Trotsky]

It's an indication of how poorly we played that we're reduced to whining about the other team's fans.  That's the sort of thing we've come to expect from... you get the point.

You know what will make the opposing team's fans more bearable?  Beating them.  Then they'll shut up.  Until then, well, there are always enough morons in any given crowd to color it.  That's the whole secret of mob violence.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Rich S]That's a great spin there.

My comments are certainly both logical and anything but silly.

  The point was that it's disingenuous to throw stones at what happened at Cheel when behavior at Lynah has been no better.

My comments are both relevant and germane given the complaining much earlier that what has not recently been tolerated at Lynah sems to be permitted at Cheel and a rebuttal that what I heard and saw at Lynah last year didn't happen.  Once you introduce the comparison and the response, you've opened the discussion wide to points being made about what goes on at Lynah.[/quote]

Rich, I hate to say it, but these two in bold seem to be contradictory and the second is the reason this discussion got started in the first place.

The fact is that Lynah used to have much more foul language, however Coach Schafer made an effort, largely sucessful, to clean it up. Sure there are isolated foul cheers, but they certainly are not the rule, nor in the organized manner that they seemed to be at Cheel.

JDeafv started this by an innocent question

I do not think that anyone on this side feels we are lilly white, just as I stated above; Lynah has largely been cleaned up and by contradistinction Cheel seems to have gotten worse.

Let's all agree that none of us here condone that behavior and now we can all go have a beer together or turn and come out fighting. Personally I prefer the former.::drunk::

[Dpperk29]

[quote ftyuv][quote Dpperk29][quote cth95]There has definitely been a drop off in the word choice on these chants over the last few years.[/quote]

every time I have been at lynah for like the last 3-4 years it has been very easy to make out "asshole" and "fuck'em up" cornell choirboys swear too[/quote]

You know you've turned into a troll when you stop bothering with either capitalization or punctuation.


Advisory:  The above was meant to be taken in jest.  I keeed, I keeed![/quote]

when posting from class, one does not pay attention to such trivial things...

[daredevilcu]

Until then, well, there are always enough morons in any given crowd to color it. That's the whole secret of mob violence.

Hooray Psych101!  And still a valid point!

[scannon]

[quote Trotsky]It's an indication of how poorly we played that we're reduced to whining about the other team's fans.  That's the sort of thing we've come to expect from... you get the point.

You know what will make the opposing team's fans more bearable?  Beating them.  Then they'll shut up.  Until then, well, there are always enough morons in any given crowd to color it.  That's the whole secret of mob violence.[/quote]

Well said!

[marty]

Worked for me on two different PCs. ?!?

You can paste this into your address bar.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl9zYS3_dc

[Rosey]

[quote Trotsky]It's an indication of how poorly we played that we're reduced to whining about the other team's fans.  That's the sort of thing we've come to expect from... you get the point.

You know what will make the opposing team's fans more bearable?  Beating them.  Then they'll shut up.  Until then, well, there are always enough morons in any given crowd to color it.  That's the whole secret of mob violence.[/quote]
Thank you.  I couldn't have said it better myself.  No, really: I couldn't.

Kyle

[ftyuv]

[quote marty]Worked for me on two different PCs. ?!?[/quote]
No it didn't.

[cth95]

Any news on why we didn't have Romano, Nash, Gallagher, and Milo on the trip?  --and if so when they are playing again?  Even though I haven't seen them yet, fron what I have been reading on here their loss must have influenced our lack of scoring.