Cornell 6 Union 0 postgame (12/2/06)

ebilmes · December 03, 2006, 02:13:28 PM

[quote bandrews37][quote Trotsky]With the win, Schafer ties Dick Bertrand for most wins as a Cornell coach, if I'm right. He's still one short, if the Daily Sun is right. TDS might actually be right, because Schafer has been suspended for a game at least once.[/quote]
You're not right - Schafer is still one shy, as Bertrand has 230 and Schafer has 229.[/quote]

You've counted them personally?

Oat · December 03, 2006, 05:30:27 PM

[quote billhoward]Whether Scrivens is really that good, it ought to make other treams nervouse about ouir goaltending depth again.[/quote]

He is THAT GOOD.

Oat · December 03, 2006, 05:39:30 PM

[quote Jim Hyla]About the crowd, I think you can give them some slack considering that the team looked so much better than Union. It's hard to keep up a lot of intensity when you are blowing the team away. I'm just glad that the team could keep up their intensity; we didn't need the fans today:-P[/quote]

I'll keep saying this until we get it right.

we're chanting everything too fast. Especially:

sieve sieve sieve sieve.... it's all your fault. it's all your fault. etc...

It may seem like the crowd sucks. But when the count is high (>2), then it's definitely the drummer's fault. He's responsible for setting up the beat in the beginning when we're counting up the goals (and he always does it too fast).

Trotsky · December 03, 2006, 06:30:53 PM

The crowd did seem very quiet over the A-A cast this weekend. It seems like the period around and immediately after Thanksgiving is the low point every year. Some reasons:

1. The initial enthusiasm of the first few weekends dissipates. This is especially true when Fish N Fowl is the first home league weekend.

2. Break. Empty seats make only slightly more noise than Harvard fans.

3. Newbies starting to find their voices. The first weekend or so, the newbies don't know what to do and absord the atmosphere. Around now, they've hit Stage II, in which they think it's clever to shout "Sucks!" 7000 times a game. By late January, some will be moving into Stage III, and coming up with creative stuff.

4. Natural selection. Kids are still competing to become "that funny guy in our section." The losers (see "Sucks!" comment above) haven't been screened out yet. It'll happen.

5. Low intensity games. It's early so conference clutch games seem far away (an illusion, but a powerful one). Wayne State doesn't inspire visceral hatred from anybody.

So, keep educating the facetimers and leading the cheering if you have something fun and original to contribute, and don't panic -- the crowd has its own breaking in period every year.

ajec1 · December 03, 2006, 08:56:55 PM

[quote Oat]
It may seem like the crowd sucks. But when the count is high (>2), then it's definitely the drummer's fault. He's responsible for setting up the beat in the beginning when we're counting up the goals (and he always does it too fast).[/quote]

This may sound defensive, but I have to stick up for the band.

Blaming one percussionist for this cheer speeding up just like every other cheer (or anything for that matter) in Lynah is crazy... We lay down a beat, its everyone around us that are taking it and cranking the sucker up to ridiculous speed.

lhayes · December 03, 2006, 09:18:29 PM

I agree with Oat that the beat laid down by the drummer for counting out the goals was way too fast last night. If the drummer slowed down, it would be a start on getting the crowd to slow down.

las224 · December 03, 2006, 09:30:42 PM

Even close by in section B, on the "let's go red" cheers that follow penalties/opposing goals/etc, most of the people are clapping at a COMPLETELY different beat than the drummer. Always confuses me b/c I don't know whether I should just go with the crowd or try to stick with the drummer and be the only one at that tempo.

ugarte · December 03, 2006, 09:32:03 PM

[quote lhayes]I agree with Oat that the beat laid down by the drummer for counting out the goals was way too fast last night. If the drummer slowed down, it would be a start on getting the crowd to slow down.[/quote]I don't think anyone is listening to the drummer. At Princeton the chants were too fast and there was no drummer. In fact, I've never heard the drummer, we just chanted slower back in my day.

You kids hit the ball over my fence and I'm not giving it back!

evilnaturedrobot · December 03, 2006, 10:51:41 PM

[quote Jim Hyla]About the crowd, I think you can give them some slack considering that the team looked so much better than Union. It's hard to keep up a lot of intensity when you are blowing the team away. I'm just glad that the team could keep up their intensity; we didn't need the fans today:-P[/quote]

I think there's some truth to this, but at the same time the crowd was much louder for the york game, which was a 10-1 trouncing that didn't even count.

For those complaining about the spead up pace of chants (and I agree) you'll be happy to know that we did get two really slow sieve chants going in A, though I can't say that too many fans joined in.

bandrews37 · December 03, 2006, 11:26:06 PM

[quote ebilmes][quote bandrews37][quote Trotsky]With the win, Schafer ties Dick Bertrand for most wins as a Cornell coach, if I'm right. He's still one short, if the Daily Sun is right. TDS might actually be right, because Schafer has been suspended for a game at least once.[/quote]
You're not right - Schafer is still one shy, as Bertrand has 230 and Schafer has 229.[/quote]

You've counted them personally?[/quote]
If I said yes, I in fact have, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

canuck89 · December 04, 2006, 12:00:33 AM

I would also say that it's not the drummer's fault. Sure, starting at a slower tempo would remedy the situation; however, the drummer's currently chosen beat is fine until the clapping and cheering starts to rush. Unfortunately, the drums are not heard very well at the other end of the rink, which only adds to the confusion.

ebilmes · December 04, 2006, 01:22:27 AM

[quote canuck89]I would also say that it's not the drummer's fault. Sure, starting at a slower tempo would remedy the situation; however, the drummer's currently chosen beat is fine until the clapping and cheering starts to rush. Unfortunately, the drums are not heard very well at the other end of the rink, which only adds to the confusion.[/quote]

People can barely maintain tempo on Davy, much less a Let's Go Red or Sieve that lends itself to speeding up.

No fault of the drummer, IMO.

dietlbomb · December 04, 2006, 01:31:06 AM

Maybe they should put a microphone on the drums. It is impossible to hear in F. In fact, I didn't even know those chants started with a drummer until reading this discussion.

evilnaturedrobot · December 04, 2006, 02:01:16 AM

it's really only after a penalty is called that lets go red starts with the drum, all others are crowd generated.

OliverIsTheMan · December 04, 2006, 02:44:31 AM

[quote dietlbomb]Maybe they should put a microphone on the drums. It is impossible to hear in F. In fact, I didn't even know those chants started with a drummer until reading this discussion.[/quote]

I'm surprised you can't hear us-- maybe there does need to be some kind of speaker system on the far side, because I can't really play much louder.

Sorry if the goal counting tempo is responsible for the speed-up, though I felt like I was taking the beat from A on that part, not the other way around...