Cornell 6 Union 0 postgame (12/2/06)

[DeltaOne81]

[quote OliverIsTheMan]
I'm surprised you can't hear us-- maybe there does need to be some kind of speaker system on the far side, because I can't really play much louder.[/quote]

You are?

I can vouch that you can't hear the band in all that much detail (especially details like drumbeats when the crowd is loud) from sections E, F, G, since at least 1999. Same goes for the cowbell.

[Rosey]

[quote DeltaOne81]I can vouch that you can't hear the band in all that much detail (especially details like drumbeats when the crowd is loud) from sections E, F, G, since at least 1999. Same goes for the cowbell.[/quote]
Strongly, strongly agreed.

I stood in G for every game this season except for Saturday when I snuck over to D, and in neither place could I hear the band (or the cowbell, Ari) loud enough to overcome the crappy, off-tempo clapping of the crowd around me.

Except for the twin issues of being farther from the opposing goalie for two periods and not wanting to destroy the hearing of the townies in front of them, I think the ideal place for the band would be at the top of section M; section C would also be better, but has the problem that the players and coaches wouldn't be able to hear each other.  So maybe a repeater in section F would be the best alternative.  I think it really would improve consistency enough to make the effort worthwhile.

Kyle

[KP '06]

I just sat in section H on Friday, my first time outside of section A since becoming a Cornell student. I was indeed surprised at how little of the band could be heard on the other end of the rink. We just don't think about that sort of thing.

However, the bass drum and quads are actually audible from that end of the rink (edit: but possibly not from within E-F, with loud cheering happening). They're not as in-your-face as section A, so you need to listen for them pretty hard, but they are there. I doubt speakers would ever happen, though an electric cowbell would be pretty sweet :-)

I also fail to see what's wrong with an up-tempo Davy and "sieve, it's all your fault" after a goal. If a "Let's go red" cheer is too fast, then it dies off too quickly (which I hate), but a post-goal celebration isn't going to die off early. I think the band's normal tempo is just fine, and when it's a little faster due to an exciting goal, the crowd (around A-B, at least) almost always responds by chanting even louder than usual when Davy is over.

[KP '06]

[quote evilnaturedrobot]For those complaining about the spead up pace of chants (and I agree) you'll be happy to know that we did get two really slow sieve chants going in A, though I can't say that too many fans joined in.[/quote]

Those are great. I can imagine them getting very disconcerting to a goalie if they're loud and extended.

[KeithK]

[quote KP '06]I also fail to see what's wrong with an up-tempo Davy and "sieve, it's all your fault" after a goal. If a "Let's go red" cheer is too fast, then it dies off too quickly (which I hate), but a post-goal celebration isn't going to die off early. I think the band's normal tempo is just fine, and when it's a little faster due to an exciting goal, the crowd (around A-B, at least) almost always responds by chanting even louder than usual when Davy is over.[/quote]Wrong is, of course, a relatiev term.  A slow steady chant just sounds better IMO. Counting slowly and chanting slowly makes the words almost intelligible and emphasizes them.  Going through the chant quickly makes it little different from a just a burst of noise.  Which isn't bad, but if all you're going to get is a burst of noise why bother with a scripted cheer?  The faster one will die out faster too - the post-goal celebration will end sooner.

[HeafDog]

[quote ebilmes]It limits your creativity when you know that it will be nearly impossible to get the people around you to join in anything, much less something new.[/quote]

It also limits your creativity when LGR is the only chant people ever start. If I recall correctly, we do have other chants in our repertoire.

The younger fans won't know any better if the older fans don't show them the way. You can't blame them for a lack in creativity.

In case anyone needs a refresher:

http://www.elynah.com/?cheers

Among others, please see the "Goalie / Sieve" section -- that cheer has all but died out completely.

[ebilmes]

[quote HeafDog]
The younger fans won't know any better if the older fans don't show them the way. You can't blame them for a lack in creativity.
[/quote]

I agree with you that we should be doing a more diverse assortment of cheers to set an example for the "newer" fans. After my friend and I started a Black Hole cheer on Saturday, someone asked us what the cheer was and wanted to learn how to do it.

[HeafDog]

[quote ebilmes][quote HeafDog]
The younger fans won't know any better if the older fans don't show them the way. You can't blame them for a lack in creativity.
[/quote]

I agree with you that we should be doing a more diverse assortment of cheers to set an example for the "newer" fans. After my friend and I started a Black Hole cheer on Saturday, someone asked us what the cheer was and wanted to learn how to do it.[/quote]

Excellent! ::rock::

Did you put in a plug for ELynah, and the cheers page?  :-D

[KeithK]

[quote HeafDog]Among others, please see the "Goalie / Sieve" section -- that cheer has all but died out completely.[/quote]Well, it may just be that it's hard to do "Goalie / Sieve" when Davenport has let in 3 quick goals.  How about "Good Sieve / Bad Sieve"?

[RazzBaronZ]

[quote ebilmes][quote HeafDog]
The younger fans won't know any better if the older fans don't show them the way. You can't blame them for a lack in creativity.
[/quote]

I agree with you that we should be doing a more diverse assortment of cheers to set an example for the "newer" fans. After my friend and I started a Black Hole cheer on Saturday, someone asked us what the cheer was and wanted to learn how to do it.[/quote]

I also liked the resurrection of "[Golaie] is a great big sieve" chant over in A on Saturday.  It worked pretty well.  I haven't heard that one in a looong time.

[HeafDog]

[quote RazzBaronZ]
I also liked the resurrection of "[Goalie] is a great big sieve" chant over in A on Saturday.  It worked pretty well.  I haven't heard that one in a looong time.[/quote]

Well, that's because it's really only supposed to be fired up if we've scored five or more.  Four is kind of pushing it.  And we know how often we tally five or more -- not that often.  Hence the rarity.

[ebilmes]

I'm not starting a new topic because no one responds to polls anymore.

USCHO: Cornell moves up one spot to #12

USAToday: Also move up one to #12

Everblades (Florida) Outlook:
UNH #2
Maine #3
Cornell #12
Western Michigan

Also, we might see more UNH fans there this year:
https://www.alumni.unh.edu/

[jtwcornell91]

IMHO electrical enhancement of the band is a road we don't want to go down.  Today a loudspeaker in F, tomorrow a bass player with an amp. ::uhoh::

[BMac]

You know, I really think we can reach a higher level of performance (as a crowd) when we're blowing them out. Think of the number of cheers we can use in that case. Great big sieve, good goalie/bad goalie, black hole, embarrassment to X hockey, etc. Even the 9 o'clock on a friday night business, if we have the SO. It's also when we're most likely to get into the sieve's head.

It's too bad that the rest of the crowd doesn't get into those games as much. Obviously, it's much more important to be supportive and loud during a close game or a comeback. It would be great, though, if we could do it during both.

My favorite is when we're blowing out a league team with a goalie we'll see at home again. That's when we establish that Lynah advantage. Make that guy really really reluctant to play here again.

[imafrshmn]

If the band was in G or H, they would perhaps be heard throughout the rink.  But as they are the ones who do a lot of the taunting, expecially before a game, I would hate to see them leave A.