Harvard 2 @ Cornell 3 postgame thread (11/10/06)

[Cactus12]

Yeah I could buy that. In real time though, it looked pretty bad (with Bitz being on the ground and the timing of him lifting the stick/ the other guy falling), so I'm not at all suprised that the call was made.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Cactus12]Yeah I could buy that. In real time though, it looked pretty bad (with Bitz being on the ground and the timing of him lifting the stick/ the other guy falling), so I'm not at all suprised that the call was made.[/quote]
Watched it a few times on the tape and I can't imagine the ref not calling it, whether intentional or not.

[profudge]

Thanks  Rich,  but I was watching Bitz and he was facing our section of the stands  he was looking for the puck and trying to swat it   -   I guess from opposite side of rink  this was not as obvious   to the ref :-/

[oceanst41]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Larry72]...and Kennedy managed to keep his head, made a great move and scored!!  
[/quote]
He looked cool and confident skating in.  No wasted moves.[/quote]

Watching the TV replay you can see his expression after the goal. No smile, no celebration other than raising his stick. He looked like he knew it was going in.

Also, it was great to hear the announcers gushing over the experience at Lynah every 5 mintues.

[Rich S]

That's not exactly true.

I said IF the ref judges that the player lying in a prone position, does not make a clear attempot to play the puck, but rather attempts to impede an opponent's progress with his body (interference) or extends or swings the stick at his legs or skates (tripping), a penalty call is warranted.

I repeat, I did not see the particular play but am simply explaining the rule.  I've seen it called both in USA hockey and in college play.

[Trotsky]

Here's another way of viewing it.

Anyway, it will be, when I update it for this weekend.

[Trotsky]

[quote ebilmes]I had never been to a Sucks@Lynah game before, so I don't have much basis for comparison.[/quote]

This was my twenty-somethingth.  The final five minutes were the second-loudest I have heard Lynah (after the '90 QF victory over Harvard).  It may be the extra 500 people and/or the effect of having double-walls throwing the crowd noise back into the building.  It was not nearly as loud the next night, except for the Brief and Shining Minute in which Cornell crammed 60 minutes of effort into 60 seconds and nearly stole a point.

The amount of fish has dropped significantly since the glory days of the 80's -- only natural, since every year the AD sends out notices that a minnow on the ice will be the deathknell of Cornell hockey.  

I was just happy to see people show up early.  Maybe that was the late start, but it makes all the difference in the world to have everybody in place and screaming when Harvard takes the ice, rather than filing in.

[Trotsky]

[quote redredux]If Fontas and Scali aren't close to Milo, Gallagher, and Romano, then fine but if they are then I'd favor giving at least one of them some game time.  I thought last night, the Red could have used some more gritty players and from what I gather that's what Fontas and Scali would bring to the table.  Also, maybe Fontas could win some faceoffs.  I don't think sitting one of the other guys for a game or two is going to stunt their growth.  It might spur their growth by making them hungrier and more focused.[/quote]

FWIW, I think you're crazy to have any complaint this early about Milo or Gallagher or Romano.  They're all over the ice, they bust a nut every minute, and they've each shown great skills.  They're raw as hell and they're going to take some time getting up to fighting weight, but I'd much rather have their energy on the ice.  This is nothing against Fontas or Scali, who are reportedly very solid.  I just don't have a bad word to say about the three mites right now.

[Trotsky]

[quote Dafatone]As pointed out, the disparity in faceoffs is pretty much solely because of Kevin Du.  In three games I've seen, I think I've only seen him lose one faceoff.

Oh, and the officiating was beyond awful.[/quote]

Agreed on Du.  I still have nightmares about what he did to us last year.

Could not disagree more on officiating.  No problem with it at all.  A typical John Murphy Special -- letter of the law, no quarter.  As long as it's consistent, fine by me.

[Robb]

[quote Trotsky]
FWIW, I think you're crazy to have any complaint this early about Milo or Gallagher or Romano.  They're all over the ice, they bust a nut every minute, and they've each shown great skills.  They're raw as hell and they're going to take some time getting up to fighting weight, but I'd much rather have their energy on the ice.  This is nothing against Fontas or Scali, who are reportedly very solid.  I just don't have a bad word to say about the three mites right now.[/quote]

Amen.  If Scali and Fontas are as good (or better) than M, G, and R, then we are in fantastic offensive shape for at least the next 2-3 (maybe 4, ifthey all stay) years.

I think Trotsky hit the nail on the head - they are raw, as evidenced by the lack of goal production this weekend, while the D didn't give up a 5x5 goal.  However, the talent, energy, and spark are there - add a little seasoning, our offense is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

[ugarte]

[quote Trotsky]FWIW, I think you're crazy to have any complaint this early about Milo or Gallagher or Romano.  They're all over the ice, they bust a nut every minute,...[/quote]And we are worried that the rink staff has to clean up Swedish Fish?

[Jacob '06]

[quote Trotsky]

Could not disagree more on officiating.  No problem with it at all.  A typical John Murphy Special -- letter of the law, no quarter.  As long as it's consistent, fine by me.[/quote]

Of all the games i've seen on video, I think the officiating as a whole has been very good this year. (I didn't see the brown and yale games on video where the most complaining about officiating has occured). They are calling nitpicky stuff but they are in general consistent and fair.

[ebilmes]

[quote Trotsky]I was just happy to see people show up early.  Maybe that was the late start, but it makes all the difference in the world to have everybody in place and screaming when Harvard takes the ice, rather than filing in.[/quote]

Yeah, I was pretty surprised by the number of people there for warmups. I think a lot of people assumed the game was at 7, and others decided to go early because they had no idea at what point the fish would be thrown and wanted to be present for that. Some people near me had never made it to a game before the lineups and had no idea what to do with newspapers.

[redhair34]

[quote Jacob '06]
Of all the games i've seen on video, I think the officiating as a whole has been very good this year. (I didn't see the brown and yale games on video where the most complaining about officiating has occured). They are calling nitpicky stuff but they are in general consistent and fair.[/quote]

I agree.  The officiating at Yale was good, but at Brown...::uhoh::

[jtwcornell91]

[quote schoaff]I'm not terribly concerned about how we do against Dartmouth tonight (other than the usual win every game to lock up an at large NCAA bid)[/quote]

How about getting a good seed in the ECAC playoffs?