Harvard 2 @ Cornell 3 postgame thread (11/10/06)

Started by billhoward, November 10, 2006, 10:36:04 PM

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calgARI '07

For the record, Taylor Davenport has been the team's best defensemen for the last three games.  Seminoff and Krantz have also played very well.  Salmela has been good.  Krueger has been getting better though he isn't playing a ton still.  Nash has struggled badly since the first game.

ugarte

w00t!

Sorry. That's the kind of comment you get when the writer gets his info from the game thread.

marry_me_topher

Completely agree about the fact that those (ALOT in Section E) got out the keys when the game was NOT over yet.  

Although I was looking forward to the "Go Staht the Cahr" chant.  Ohwell, next time.

RedAR

1) Maybe I'm spoiled, but our faceoffs were horrible.
2) The box shows that Cornell was 0-6 on the PP, but doesn't scoring on a delayed penalty count as a PPG?

TimV

I had the exact same thought - very similar to the OT game winner his senior year at Union that was on this board's video list.  Probably this one should be there too.  Interesting that the media guide says Kennedy "brought to mind memories of Mike Iggulden."

AND Iggulden also wore number 18.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

TimV

[quote redhair34]Cornell is 5-0 for the first time in more than 30 years!![/quote]

Thanks to Robert Morris, and RIT, and Brom...:-|
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

TimV

Was an exact duplicate of an early power play score in last year's ECACHL Championship.  The D has to sharpen up on Back-door alertness and crease-clogging.  Better yet, I'd like to see us get more motion down low on OUR PP.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

marty

[quote Larry72]
 I don't know if those watching/listening could hear it, but on Kennedy's breakaway, the rink was about as loud as I've ever heard it...and Kennedy managed to keep his head, made a great move and scored!!  

LGR

Larry '72[/quote]

I couldn't hear the crowd because I was yelling too loud at home!  It was a great comeback and both late goals were impressive.

Until those goals, none of the scoring was 5 x 5.  Of course, Troy Davenport had a lot to do with Cornell's not giving up even strength goals, but my point is that with improvement, Cornell may be able to outwit Harvard on their power play, too.

Quinnipiac has a similar traping style defense.  Those matchups versus the Red should be interesting.  We'll see if Cornell can learn from Friday's near disaster.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

profudge

Well, too hoarse to call my brother and tell him about the game;  so I'll just have to post a few thoughts and observations here and tell him to read  eLynah forum  **]  

Give some credit on the final goal to Carefoot who made a heads up play as he was getting tied up by a Harvard D in neutral ice to hit Kennedy's stick with a great pass.     I echo the comments about Davenport in net, a very solid game and kept us in it.  

I saw at least 3 offensive zone penalties that I did not understand:
1.)   Tony  got a GT Interf.  but looked like he was chasing puck from in front to corner and Richter made the contact (admittedly inside crease by about a foot+ ), but  puck was out in corner of rink and he was diverted into crease a bit by Harvard D'men,  seemed a weak call -  
2.)  Davenport  (I think) on forecheck deep in Harvard zone, inadvertantly got his stick slightly between Harvard players legs (missed poke check).  There was no trip - or real advantage as he backed off and gave Harvard player the puck control and the opening to pass puck away which is what happened  -  but whistled any way ???
3.)  Bitz is hacked / slash interferred with coming around behind net fighting for control of puck  winds up getting take to ice and then while lying flat on his face a Harvard skater in essence falls over him and Bitz is called for tripping ??

If  anyone can enlighten me on these 3  I'd love to understand them - Admittedly I sit in N at that end of ice and probably had a better view  of plays than the official at that point !

Kudo's to the Team for pulling out a win when we were outplayed somewhat for the middle 50 mins of the game!    LGR

The real diffeerence was the Harvard powerplay had crisp passes - on sticks and when moving it back and forth on the point they also walked it forward a bit each time.   Our power play passing was anything but crisp  - and we did not seem to attack the Harvard  box even though they were out a bit higher than our PK box  was!!
- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's

nr53

I also loved the one where Scott got called for interference when Romano's stick was solidly being held by a Sucks player 10 feet in front of the ref.

McCutcheon had a few nice moves too, making a nice strip and getting a few good looks.

Edit: Jack Christian is a goon. I don't even know why he had a stick, he never seemed to even try to play the puck.
'07

Beeeej

[quote RedAR]2) The box shows that Cornell was 0-6 on the PP, but doesn't scoring on a delayed penalty count as a PPG?[/quote]

No; it's credited as an EAG, or "extra attacker goal."  For us to score a PPG, the other team has to be a man down, not just have one fewer non-goalie on the ice than we do.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

redhair34

[quote TimV][quote redhair34]Cornell is 5-0 for the first time in more than 30 years!![/quote]

Thanks to Robert Morris, and RIT, and Brom...:-|[/quote]

You know you're right.  Our start isn't that impressive.  I'm sorry for bringing it up.

redhair34

[quote RedAR]1) Maybe I'm spoiled, but our faceoffs were horrible.
[/quote]

Over the last two years, Du has been among the best if not the best in the ECAC on the draw.  He gave Pegoraro and Abbott fits last year.  Doug Rogers was also very good last night. I think the faceoff disparity was something like 35-25, which wasn't as bad as I thought it was.

DisplacedCornellian

Watching on CSTV, Davenport looked really solid in goal.  I was really impressed by his positioning and the way he repositioned himself after making the initial save.  Never out of position, never really scrambling, just smooth and composed.  He didn't look particularly strong handling the puck out of net, but not particularly awful either.  Neither goal was his fault, and to me it looked like he almost got over in time to stop the first Harvard goal.  Du's goal was pretty, I wish we had managed to land Morin so he could be making feeds like that to our guys.

Harvard has a great D.  They were a nightmare in the neutral zone, and prevented Cornell from cycling the puck successfully once they got it in the offensive zone.  Richter looked solid in goal as well.  

A win is a win.  This is a young team (and very young defense)- for them to be finding ways to win games like this at this point in the season is a very good sign.  I'm excited to see how this season plays out.

Rich S

I didnt see the play so I cant comment on it specifically but the key to that situation is that the prone player has to make a clear attempt to play the puck.  If not, in the ref's judgement, the call will be for either tripping or interference.