Harvard 2 @ Cornell 3 postgame thread (11/10/06)

Beeeej · November 11, 2006, 01:35:27 AM

[quote marry_me_topher]1) We were playing so bad before 5 min before the end that on a bunch of Harvard shots on Davenport (2nd period) a few of our guys had to resort to diving. Literally, sprawling on purpose to roadblock precisely when they're making the breaks. I mean, it worked, but can't refs make calls against that?[/quote]

You mean when a defenseman lies down on the ice to block a pass or a shot? That's a completely legitimate defensive tactic, and I think we did it rather well tonight, though it's nicer when we don't have to. Or are you talking about something else? 'cause I can't imagine what call a ref would or should make on lying down to block a pass or a shot.

ebilmes · November 11, 2006, 01:36:11 AM

[quote scoop85]When Kennedy took the pass for the game winning goal, I immediately thought about his breakaway against Harvard last year in Albany. Same result on the breakaway, better result for the game :-)[/quote]

Kennedy family definitely gets a lot of love after Patrick's committment and Michael's game tonight.

Jordan 04 · November 11, 2006, 01:37:01 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote marry_me_topher]1) We were playing so bad before 5 min before the end that on a bunch of Harvard shots on Davenport (2nd period) a few of our guys had to resort to diving. Literally, sprawling on purpose to roadblock precisely when they're making the breaks. I mean, it worked, but can't refs make calls against that?[/quote]

You mean when a defenseman lies down on the ice to block a pass or a shot? That's a completely legitimate defensive tactic, and I think we did it rather well tonight, though it's nicer when we don't have to. Or are you talking about something else? 'cause I can't imagine what call a ref would or should make on lying down to block a pass or a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, Seminoff made a couple of great desperation dives, especially on the 2-on-1.

Beeeej · November 11, 2006, 01:38:56 AM

[quote ebilmes]The goal to make it 2-2 seemed very similar to Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final. Win the faceoff, get it to the point, and let it fly.[/quote]

Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final was a breakaway off a cross-ice pass from Mark McRae in the Cornell end. I think you're thinking of Mark McRae's tying goal from a 6-on-5 faceoff a few minutes earlier.

ebilmes · November 11, 2006, 01:39:28 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote ebilmes]The goal to make it 2-2 seemed very similar to Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final. Win the faceoff, get it to the point, and let it fly.[/quote]

Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final was a breakaway off a cross-ice pass from Mark McRae in the Cornell end. I think you're thinking of Mark McRae's tying goal from a 6-on-5 faceoff a few minutes earlier.[/quote]

Yeah, whoops, that's the one I meant. I'll edit.

Beeeej · November 11, 2006, 01:43:44 AM

[quote ebilmes]The goal to make it 2-2 seemed very similar to Mark McRae's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final. Win the faceoff, get it to the point, and let it fly.[/quote]

Heh... sorry to be a pain, but our tying goal in '03 was, of course, late in the 3rd period, not in OT.

schoaff · November 11, 2006, 01:43:53 AM

[quote Larry72]and Kennedy managed to keep his head, made a great move and scored!![/quote]

One of the guys on CSTV's version of sportscenter pointed out that Kennedy made a nifty fake with his right leg to get the goalie to commit three strides before he took his shot. I'm just thinking that takes balls to try something like that in a tie game against Harvard. Kudos to him.

After Kennedy broke out of the zone all that was between him and the goal was Harvard's McCafferty who was caught completely flat footed as Kennedy blew by him. Wonder what he was thinking.

redhair34 · November 11, 2006, 01:44:29 AM

[quote ebilmes][quote Beeeej][quote ebilmes]The goal to make it 2-2 seemed very similar to Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final. Win the faceoff, get it to the point, and let it fly.[/quote]

Paolini's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final was a breakaway off a cross-ice pass from Mark McRae in the Cornell end. I think you're thinking of Mark McRae's tying goal from a 6-on-5 faceoff a few minutes earlier.[/quote]

Yeah, whoops, that's the one I meant. I'll edit.[/quote]

I call it our standard Harvard play. If anyone remembers, Krantz scored the game tying goal at lynah east last year on that play. Ryan O'Byrne last year in the ECAC championship. And of course, Mark McRae.

Beeeej · November 11, 2006, 01:46:59 AM

[quote schoaff]After Kennedy broke out of the zone all that was between him and the goal was Harvard's McCafferty who was caught completely flat footed as Kennedy blew by him. Wonder what he was thinking.[/quote]

I've just watched that goal a few more times (okay, a few dozen more times), and I noted with amusement that if Kennedy had actually stickhandled "properly," and the pass had stuck to his stick as intended, McCafferty would still have been behind him. It's almost certainly only because the pass ricocheted off Kennedy's stick and kept its momentum that he was able to chase it past McCafferty and use the breakaway. But once he did, man, what a beautiful move. From every camera angle.

Yum!

ebilmes · November 11, 2006, 01:50:50 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote ebilmes]The goal to make it 2-2 seemed very similar to Mark McRae's '03 OT goal against Sucks in the final. Win the faceoff, get it to the point, and let it fly.[/quote]

Heh... sorry to be a pain, but our tying goal in '03 was, of course, late in the 3rd period, not in OT.[/quote]

Picky, picky. Whatever the specifics, it was a good memory.

French Rage · November 11, 2006, 01:55:18 AM

We didnt play to hot, definitely a young team, but hey, a win's a win, they won't all be pretty so I'll take it, especially against Sucks.

Also, I hope someone strangled the idiots with the car keys when we had a 1 goal lead. ::rolleyes::

Beeeej · November 11, 2006, 01:57:19 AM

[quote French Rage]Also, I hope someone strangled the idiots with the car keys when we had a 1 goal lead. ::rolleyes::[/quote]

Moreover, a 1 goal lead with a faceoff in our zone and facing an extra attacker.

I tried to strangle all of them, but there were just too many. Sorry.

redhair34 · November 11, 2006, 01:59:24 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote French Rage]Also, I hope someone strangled the idiots with the car keys when we had a 1 goal lead. ::rolleyes::[/quote]

Moreover, a 1 goal lead with a faceoff in our zone and facing an extra attacker.

I tried to strangle all of them, but there were just too many. Sorry.[/quote]

I lost my voice screaming at them. And then of course I got the "does that kid have rabies?" look from a couple of clueless girls in front of me.

calgARI '07 · November 11, 2006, 02:05:32 AM

[quote ebilmes]My thoughts:

We. Got. Lucky.

Harvard looked like the Cornell of the past couple years. Big, strong, skillful D. /quote]

100% agree. Harvard was limiting Cornell's chances in a dominating fashion the way Cornell has the last few years. Plain and simple, Cornell could not get to the middle of the ice - not in the neutral zone or the offensive zone. They were really really impressive and are far and away the best team Cornell has played.

I'm glad Dartmouth won tonight as they won't be playing nearly as desperate Saturday. Cornell is going to have to play 1000 times better if they are going to beat Dartmouth who will not be nearly as good defensively but a whole lot better offensively.

Thought both Morin and Biega were studs on the backline. Very impressive.

Cornell's kill on the 5-on-3 was enormous and one of the best two-men down kills I've seen.

Cornell's first powerplay unit is still horrendous and it was ridiculous that Schafer was starting them on the third period powerplays. They didn't even attempt a shot. Time to blow that whole thing up and start from scratch. Bitz needs to pick up his play.

Cornell didn't play badly defensively - just had a handful of lapses. Davenport was spectacular though.

Officiating was average.

Crowd was awesome in the beginning and the end.

There is no way Cornell plays that badly tomorrow night. I'm expecting a big performance.

saff678 · November 11, 2006, 02:15:35 AM

Davenport impressed me again tonight - kept us in the game during a looong second period - a couple of stops on his chest that the team was able to clear almost have me a heart attack.
Sure I'm scared when he leaves the net, especially if he doesn't know where the forecheck is, but sometimes he's been great at it. In the last 30 seconds, leaving to stop one coming around the top of the boards kept us in possession. I hear there were problems last weekend, but he seems to get back quickly enough...

Few guys stood out tonight, but the D by Tay Davenport and Seminoff was great, even if Nash didn't seem so hot tonight. Tony Romano had the moves, when he was given the puck, but the passes just never got to their targets. I give him a lot of credit for trying - he riled up the crowd and really set up some great opportunities. McCutch, too, was great early on, fighting deep on the power play too.
I'd have loved to see Sawada pick up his game last night - felt like he never touched the puck. Him and Barlow are two guys I expected to see a lot from tonight...

[quote ebilmes]it was easy to tell who the facetimers were in the middle stretches. They were the ones yelling "shoot" just for the sake of getting a SOG[/quote]

If you ask me, Krantz showed us that once in a while you've gotta send the puck to the net, whether it goes in or its a chance for a rebound or something. If Richter doesn't see anything all game, if we don't start fazing him, it makes it harder to score. I'm used to sending the puck in circles on the power play, and I'm fine with it, but when every pass to the wings gets denied, "just shoot" may work.

LGR!