Cornell vs Colgate 12/6

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Redpucks1!

Theodore Roosevelt > Quotes > Quotable Quote (?)
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is
no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Hey Bear lover and bigdingus; this one's for you.  Obviously two individuals that think they somehow make a difference.  Pathetic!  You think the team is trying to fail?  You have no idea what goes on in the inner workings of a team.  Injuries, illness, chemistry, sophomore slumps, academic stress, etc.  You both seem to think Cornell should just show up and win - just that easy. News flash - Other teams may be trying to do the same.  You obviously have never been in a competitive athletic competition or you would be aware of some of the difficulties in being successful as consistently as Cornell Hockey is.

Dafatone

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Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.
It's a moot point now. We won't have to worry about at-large bids until the 2025-26 season.

We're still in alright shape.

Like we have to win more games. But we had a 3-4-4 (I think) stretch last year. If the team wins more games, they'll get there.
I mean yes, technically we can still get an at-large bid. But it's not about winning "more games." It's about winning games at an extremely high clip going forward, far higher than we've shown any capability of doing. We are not in alright shape.

I think what I've been trying to say is that it's gonna take less improvement than you think, in terms of wins and losses.

That being said, if you think the team isn't capable of turning it around, I don't think that's an absurd opinion, although I think they can.

BearLover

Quote from: Redpucks1!Theodore Roosevelt > Quotes > Quotable Quote (?)
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is
no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Hey Bear lover and bigdingus; this one's for you.  Obviously two individuals that think they somehow make a difference.  Pathetic!  You think the team is trying to fail?  You have no idea what goes on in the inner workings of a team.  Injuries, illness, chemistry, sophomore slumps, academic stress, etc.  You both seem to think Cornell should just show up and win - just that easy. News flash - Other teams may be trying to do the same.  You obviously have never been in a competitive athletic competition or you would be aware of some of the difficulties in being successful as consistently as Cornell Hockey is.
That's a nice quote, but despite what you seem to believe I think, I am under no illusion I make any difference. I'm a random person posting on a college hockey Internet forum. Same as you.

This team is a colossal disappointment. Their play is bad and their results are worse. That is the reality whether I'm here to make the case or not. Nobody knows that to be true better than the players and coaches themselves—the men in the arena.

TimV

Quote from: TrotskyKill the loudspeakers and screens, and DIY.  Or dissolve into this insipid pool of processed piss.

God that's beautiful alliteration.   You just don't get this quality writing on Reddit.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

W

The point about the band "not showing up" is demonstrably false. Every game for the past (at least) two years, the band has used all of our allotted tickets given to us from athletics. In fact, the band has often had a waitlist of at least a dozen people for these games. The only exceptions have been a few games this year where they interfered with football away games, which eats up most of the band member population.

Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskyKill the loudspeakers and screens, and DIY.  Or dissolve into this insipid pool of processed piss.

God that's beautiful alliteration.   You just don't get this quality writing on Reddit.
"At the touch of hate, everyone become a poet." -- Plato

Trotsky

Quote from: WThe point about the band "not showing up" is demonstrably false. Every game for the past (at least) two years, the band has used all of our allotted tickets given to us from athletics. In fact, the band has often had a waitlist of at least a dozen people for these games. The only exceptions have been a few games this year where they interfered with football away games, which eats up most of the band member population.
The band is wonderful, and we all greatly appreciate your dedication and loyalty!  Just please stop with the Jeopardy theme; it is self-absorbed and brutally cringe.

ugarte

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Quote from: WThe point about the band "not showing up" is demonstrably false. Every game for the past (at least) two years, the band has used all of our allotted tickets given to us from athletics. In fact, the band has often had a waitlist of at least a dozen people for these games. The only exceptions have been a few games this year where they interfered with football away games, which eats up most of the band member population.
The band is wonderful, and we all greatly appreciate your dedication and loyalty!  Just please stop with the Jeopardy theme; it is self-absorbed and brutally cringe.
Do not listen to Trotsky's complaints as a man in hailing distance of 60 is not permitted to cringe-check teenagers except to other olds.

However, you may take his appreciation at face value. Pep band is the only activity at Cornell I ever give money to because it's cool when you get to invade road rinks.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteDo not listen to Trotsky's complaints as a man in hailing distance of 60 is not permitted to cringe-check teenagers except to other olds.

Well past 60.  And who do you think is on eLynah anyway?

Teens should be more transgressive and interesting than Olds.  Disruptive teens are good; boring teens are a sign of social collapse.