Cornell vs Colgate 12/6

Started by chimpfood, December 03, 2024, 11:17:07 PM

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BearLover

Quote from: upprdeckwe have 2 losses, how is that multiple losses to bad teams.

Everything after reg. is just a crap shoot for fun.
By that logic, we also have four ties, which are against Yale, Harvard, Quinnipiac, and Colgate. Overall bad teams. The number of ties is masking how underwhelming our results have been. Also, we've played 7 games at home and only 2 on the road.

upprdeck

I have idea who is good or bad.

We have ties vs teams we have dominated

But its a game often decided by 1-3 no matter how well you play.


People thought Princ was awful then they swept OSU

Just win the league and thats the first goal

Win the OC games that helps as well.

Get healthy and see where we are in Feb no matter what the record says

BearLover

Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.

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People to send your comments about the atmosphere in Lynah to:
Nikki Moore (CornellAD@cornell.edu) Director of Athletics
Laken Kelly (lfk46@cornell.edu) Assistant Director of Athletics for Fan Engagement

stereax

Quote from: VIEWfromKLast night for Gary Glitter, sections A+B were fully involved like usual and from Section C over none of the students were participating.  They have tuned the band out.
Section C isn't really a student section in the way A and B are. A lot of people who get tickets at the door and "fade" after 1 or 2 periods. Which, I like that for me personally because too many people in my near vicinity is never fun, but C can get VERY gappy at the beginning/end of some games.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

stereax

Quote from: TrotskyHigher expectations were reasonable, but to demand them is entitled and childish.

Just fucking enjoy the fucking team.
!!! I'm just enjoying the hockey, man. Like sure, we're not the best team in NCAA, we're never going to be. Enjoy the ride.
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stereax

Quote from: DafatoneSecond, the power play sucks. Like, the pp% and negative comments here understate, not overstate, how damn awful it looks.
Holy fuck it is genuinely awful. Like holy shitballs. I liked them bringing Psenicka back on pp1 as a screener but there's just. I don't know what's going on. They either move during the pp or shoot during it, not both at once...
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stereax

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BearLoverWait, WTF, seriously? They play pumped in music during play stoppages now? Has that been going on all season?

Can somebody give more color to this?

Seriously. It doesn't come across on the broadcasts, more often than not, I find I'm unrealistically annoyed by "dumb things the band is doing these days" but if there's really a DJ incursion at Lynah of all places, the old Bandie in me is on the edge of a riot.

When the band can't be assembled due to a football road trip, that's one thing, but put it away when they're in the building.
I can't speak to whether it's getting "worse" but there's a lot of times they pump in songs versus the band playing. A lot of times during stoppages. Usually after icings or the like. I think the band gets more time when it's the ice scraper timeout. I don't mind the music? I think it gets the crowd like, singing and more active, versus the band which can be harder to follow. I definitely see the tradition argument, though, and I do think the band is a lot of fun, but several times it's felt like there's been a skeleton crew.
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BearLover

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.
Oops, disregard

BearLover

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.
It's a moot point now. We won't have to worry about at-large bids until the 2025-26 season.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.
It's a moot point now. We won't have to worry about at-large bids until the 2025-26 season.

We're still in alright shape.

Like we have to win more games. But we had a 3-4-4 (I think) stretch last year. If the team wins more games, they'll get there.

stereax

Quote from: DafatoneWe're still in alright shape.

Like we have to win more games. But we had a 3-4-4 (I think) stretch last year. If the team wins more games, they'll get there.
This! Rest up. Solve the powerplay issue. Pretty sure we have quite a few softball games in the back half of the season. It'll work out. And if it doesn't, welp, we still got to watch some fun Cornell hockey and chat together. :)
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

BearLover

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: DafatoneI still think you're underestimating our pairwise position. There's a lot more hockey left than has been played, and we're not far off. We are 5-2-3, with KRACH putting us at 16th against the 24th best schedule. We will have to get better results from here on than we have so far, but not by much.
We are now 20th in the Pairwise (5 spots lower than before last night). There's a significant gap in RPI between 13th and 20th. To earn an at-large bid, we'd need a 10 RPI in the country during the second half of the season (maybe top 5)? I.e., we'll have to be better than a top 10 team from here on out for an at-large. We've dug ourselves a big hole IMO.

Our RPI right now is .5419. The cutoff every year winds up at .54something, usually a little over .5400. Last season was an exception, with the cutoff at .5497. Obviously, this depends on how many teams get at large bids, but I don't remember seeing a team get left out if they're above .5500.

We do need to move up. I don't think we need to move up a ton. We have played 10 games and have 19 regular season games left (so a guaranteed 21, though if we only play the minimum ECAC tourney games, well...)

That's lots of room to improve. Especially given how many road games we have left. Maybe that's a concern in that we've underperformed somewhat despite a home-heavy start. Maybe it's a plus because RPI overweighs (in my opinion) away vs home games.
It's a moot point now. We won't have to worry about at-large bids until the 2025-26 season.

We're still in alright shape.

Like we have to win more games. But we had a 3-4-4 (I think) stretch last year. If the team wins more games, they'll get there.
I mean yes, technically we can still get an at-large bid. But it's not about winning "more games." It's about winning games at an extremely high clip going forward, far higher than we've shown any capability of doing. We are not in alright shape.

BearLover

To be more precise, I'd estimate Cornell has about a 10% chance of getting an at-large bid. That's based on the hole they've dug themselves and how horrible they've looked so far. Even if they had looked better so far (say, equivalent to last year's team), they'd need to get quite lucky the rest of the way to win at such a high rate, so maybe their odds would increase to 25%. No higher than that, for sure, though.