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scoop85

Quote from: abmarkshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/26/cornell-jessica-zhang-coronavirus-tiktok/

Not sure if this is a good look or a bad one

Zhang seems like an admissions mistake--entitled and petulant.

ugarte

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: abmarkshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/26/cornell-jessica-zhang-coronavirus-tiktok/

Not sure if this is a good look or a bad one

Zhang seems like an admissions mistake--entitled and petulant.
hahaha yeah really breaking the mold

scoop85

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: abmarkshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/26/cornell-jessica-zhang-coronavirus-tiktok/

Not sure if this is a good look or a bad one

Zhang seems like an admissions mistake--entitled and petulant.
hahaha yeah really breaking the mold

Yeah, I figured someone would point out that she actually is not particularly an outlier

David Harding

The Sun reports a cluster of 9 students testing positive "following several small social gatherings where people did not social distance or wear masks."  The Vice President for Student and Campus Life is reported to have emailed that "multiple students have already been temporarily suspended for reported violations of the behavioral compact."

billhoward


Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: abmarkshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/26/cornell-jessica-zhang-coronavirus-tiktok/

Not sure if this is a good look or a bad one

Zhang seems like an admissions mistake--entitled and petulant.
hahaha yeah really breaking the mold
Goddamnit, beat me by this much.

Trotsky

Quote from: David HardingThe Sun reports a cluster of 9 students testing positive "following several small social gatherings where people did not social distance or wear masks."  The Vice President for Student and Campus Life is reported to have emailed that "multiple students have already been temporarily suspended for reported violations of the behavioral compact."
To be fair to the moron students, this was completely forseeable and entirely on Cornell.  They tried to finesse it, presumably for cash flow, and it's going to blow up in their face.  If there was a way for the class action suits to bomb them into penury without affecting the hockey team I'd be all for it.

I used to respect Cornell as the People's Ivy, but even then it was probably just a real estate and defense grant scam masquerading as a university.

Beeeej

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: David HardingThe Sun reports a cluster of 9 students testing positive "following several small social gatherings where people did not social distance or wear masks."  The Vice President for Student and Campus Life is reported to have emailed that "multiple students have already been temporarily suspended for reported violations of the behavioral compact."
To be fair to the moron students, this was completely forseeable and entirely on Cornell.  They tried to finesse it, presumably for cash flow, and it's going to blow up in their face.  If there was a way for the class action suits to bomb them into penury without affecting the hockey team I'd be all for it.

I used to respect Cornell as the People's Ivy, but even then it was probably just a real estate and defense grant scam masquerading as a university.

The decisions have been entirely on Cornell, but the context is more complex than you suggest. The studies they did showed that if they went to online instruction only, a certain significant percentage of the students would have returned to Ithaca anyway since it's somewhat unavoidably where they now live - and with them living off-campus, Cornell would not have had the ability to impose and enforce any behavioral compact, so more and larger gatherings were likely. Their analysis (whether it's right or not, I can't say) told them that they were likely to have higher infection and transmission rates in those circumstances than if they held on-campus instruction, which allows Cornell to impose and enforce the compact on all students living either on-campus or off.

Plus, I'm not sure they would've lost money if they'd gone to online-only instruction, so "cash flow" seems misplaced to me. You think they would've refunded anyone's tuition or a portion thereof?

Whether the numbers would be higher or lower than they are now, they are at least significantly lower than at other comparable institutions of Cornell's size, and as of now have not topped 25% of the Cuomo-imposed hard limit. https://covid.cornell.edu/testing/dashboard/
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

upprdeck

if they didnt try this and get some kids into the dorms they would have had serious cash issues and layoffs.  even with this they are barely making a go of it.

billhoward

Quote from: TrotskyTo be fair to the moron students, this was completely forseeable and entirely on Cornell.  They tried to finesse it, presumably for cash flow, and it's going to blow up in their face.  If there was a way for the class action suits to bomb them into penury without affecting the hockey team I'd be all for it. I used to respect Cornell as the People's Ivy, but even then it was probably just a real estate and defense grant scam masquerading as a university.
Sixties still running strong in our hearts.

Except now the tees have text to explain the emoji. As the jumbotron at MSG reads CLAP CLAP CLAP to bring the fans to act up.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: BeeeejPlus, I'm not sure they would've lost money if they'd gone to online-only instruction, so "cash flow" seems misplaced to me. You think they would've refunded anyone's tuition or a portion thereof?

I've read that Universities are worried about the loss of housing/dining/activities fees if instruction is all online, although I don't know if those operations make or lose money on net.  I know RIT took a hit from refunding dorm fees in the Spring, but presumably part of that is that the money to open the dorms had already been spent.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: TrotskyTo be fair to the moron students, this was completely forseeable and entirely on Cornell.  They tried to finesse it, presumably for cash flow, and it's going to blow up in their face.  If there was a way for the class action suits to bomb them into penury without affecting the hockey team I'd be all for it. I used to respect Cornell as the People's Ivy, but even then it was probably just a real estate and defense grant scam masquerading as a university.
Sixties still running strong in our hearts.

God no.  Fuck the sixties.  Those assholes were just camp followers who then gave us the next 40 years of crap while they refined their portfolios.

We're all going to the blade, bill. And we'll all richly deserve it.