Wrestling 2018-19

[Roy 82]

So are adding buildings and removing parking again.

even now there is no parking when hockey and bball are taking place the same evening and now you are moving over 100 spots

What do they do for football games? Even with our poor record they must draw more than hockey or bball.

[Trotsky]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

Shocking.

There's a former Cornell wrestler who became a hedge fund billionaire. His targeted donations are the reason Athletics has the money to pump money into wrestling. His name is on the building.

Holy shit.  He's an actual Illuminati.

[Cop at Lynah]

Other than the Homecoming game, football doesn't come close to the paid attendance for hockey.  They give away far more tickets than those that are actually purchased.

[RichH]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

Shocking.

There's a former Cornell wrestler who became a hedge fund billionaire. His targeted donations are the reason Athletics has the money to pump money into wrestling. His name is on the building.

And whose name is on the entrance lobby?

[ugarte]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

Shocking.

There's a former Cornell wrestler who became a hedge fund billionaire. His targeted donations are the reason Athletics has the money to pump money into wrestling. His name is on the building.

And whose name is on the entrance lobby?

please say it's me that would be so cool

[Swampy]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

Does it include an indoor football practice facility?

No! And we're not going to get one either, until our football alums stop doing frivolous things like winning the Maxwell Award or Super Bowl, and get down to the serious, humanitarian business of enhancing shareholder value.

[RichH]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

I'll put down this axe I've been grinding to comment on the details of this project:

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

Has anybody checked how the swimming facilities are holding up?

[Beeeej]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

I'll put down this axe I've been grinding to comment on the details of this project:

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

Has anybody checked how the swimming facilities are holding up?

I'm guessing they need an infusion of cash, since last I heard they were underwater.

[RichH]

Has anybody checked how the swimming facilities are holding up?

I'm guessing they need an infusion of cash, since last I heard they were underwater.

I do have to admit, I'm rather enjoying playing the straight man for the high quality jokes in this thread.

[ugarte]

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

My guess is that adding seating to the wrestling arena is probably a lot more complicated than tacking on a shed. And the problem with Newman as a wrestling venue was the lack of intimacy. Building capacity to deal with a rare event like a visit from Ohio State doesn't seem like that high a priority when there is a less-perfect venue for that rare event right next door.

As for the donor money pouring in (and suffice it to say that though there are a lot of donors the 'donor' in "donor money" is still basically a singular here) I'd say it's probably that this 81 year old billionaire wants to win a national championship before he kicks it and he's got to spend against the  Penn State juggernaut.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

I'll put down this axe I've been grinding to comment on the details of this project:

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

Has anybody checked how the swimming facilities are holding up?

I'm guessing they need an infusion of cash, since last I heard they were underwater.

Boo!  Hiss!

[Jim Hyla]

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

My guess is that adding seating to the wrestling arena is probably a lot more complicated than tacking on a shed. And the problem with Newman as a wrestling venue was the lack of intimacy. Building capacity to deal with a rare event like a visit from Ohio State doesn't seem like that high a priority when there is a less-perfect venue for that rare event right next door.

As for the donor money pouring in (and suffice it to say that though there are a lot of donors the 'donor' in "donor money" is still basically a singular here) I'd say it's probably that this 81 year old billionaire wants to win a national championship before he kicks it and he's got to spend against the  Penn State juggernaut.

Agree, and it would not be a good use of funds.

Put the money to use where it would do the most good. Adding seats for a once or twice a year event is probably not that.

Considering how well the sport is doing, I'm not going to challenge their decisions.

[RichH]

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

My guess is that adding seating to the wrestling arena is probably a lot more complicated than tacking on a shed. And the problem with Newman as a wrestling venue was the lack of intimacy. Building capacity to deal with a rare event like a visit from Ohio State doesn't seem like that high a priority when there is a less-perfect venue for that rare event right next door.

As for the donor money pouring in (and suffice it to say that though there are a lot of donors the 'donor' in "donor money" is still basically a singular here) I'd say it's probably that this 81 year old billionaire wants to win a national championship before he kicks it and he's got to spend against the  Penn State juggernaut.

I thank you for your thoughtful reply.

[Swampy]

The additional space would be used for locker rooms, a practice gym, fitness space, film room and other wrestling-related functions. To make room for this facility, about half of the existing on-site parking lot would be eliminated, while the remaining portion would be reconfigured, along with new stormwater facilities. Showers and training rooms in the existing building will also be renovated. The team roster and arena will not be expanded

One of the most unbelievable things to me when this building was constructed was that when a major opponent like Ohio State would visit, matches were moved to Newman Arena, the former wrestling facility, because the capacity of this groundbreaking monument to wrestling (ok, ok, axe is back down) could not accommodate the expected crowd. Back then, I thought that was amazingly short-sighted, and unfair to other varsity programs who utilize the Field House. NOW, with a major renovation of a (checks notes) 17 year-old building, this shortcoming isn't being addressed?? I mean, the turn-of-the-century showers obviously need to be brought back up to modern standards, but if you aren't going to allow the arena for which this building was built to hold to be upgraded so they won't have to go to an inferior competition space...I'm just at a loss at the purpose of pouring more donor money in.

My guess is that adding seating to the wrestling arena is probably a lot more complicated than tacking on a shed. And the problem with Newman as a wrestling venue was the lack of intimacy. Building capacity to deal with a rare event like a visit from Ohio State doesn't seem like that high a priority when there is a less-perfect venue for that rare event right next door.

As for the donor money pouring in (and suffice it to say that though there are a lot of donors the 'donor' in "donor money" is still basically a singular here) I'd say it's probably that this 81 year old billionaire wants to win a national championship before he kicks it and he's got to spend against the  Penn State juggernaut.

I wonder. Could a large indoor facility serving as a practice, or even game, venue for football, men & women's lacrosse & soccer be designed to serve as a venue for such wrestling events?

Alternatively, I remember reading about the home advantage Providence College had during last spring's men's hockey regionals because the players could recuperate between games using such things as zero-gravity recliners and a CryoTherapy Chamber in state-of-the-art facilities like the Ruane Friar Development Center and Innovation Lab. Wouldn't wrestling benefit from such facilities that would also benefit other teams?

[billhoward]

An expansion of the wrestling facility is planned.

Priorities! Note the additional information on other Cornell plans beyond adding 5,500 feet to the wrestling center:

Meanwhile, a short distance to the north, Cornell is planning a much larger project, one that will host a variety of academic and research units. The yet-to-be-named building will house Cornell's Centers for Cancer Biology and Immunology, Department of Computation Biology, Masters of Public Health Program and the Atkinson Center.