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[snert1288]

From a student who stood in A/B from 2008-2011 I'd have to agree.  There are still many creative cheers and most are hilarious.  Also, the remote control goalie cheers that I've heard do still mimic his motions.  From where I was standing people still yell Skate, Turn, Drink, Tab, Stop, and Bend Over.  Certainly the end refrain can get dragged out, especially if Cornell is going on the PK or there is a faceoff in our zone.  So I'd say the problem is more with discretion than with the actual cheers.  Additionally,  the "Baby" cheer has (or at least they've tried) been adapted.  I cannot say that I ever was able to watch Stephen Baby play, so I'm not sure if the comparison is accurate but in my time at Lynah the cheer was directed at both Tyler Mugford and Dan Nicholls.  Again, this was not every student so it may not have been audible on the other side of the ice.  The atmosphere may not be what it once was, but I think it says something about how important the Lynah Faithful still are that Ben Scrivens always gave us a lot of credit and thanks.

[ugarte]

I still boggle at the thought of anyone being offended by "Sucks" as en expression,

You know that it's short for "sucks dick" right?

Only to a certain generation, at this point. I doubt anyone under a certain age says "sucks" casually and intends to express similarity to the act of fellatio.  I've always thought that "sucks" is 100% interchangeable with "stinks" in both definition and level of offensiveness.

Exactly.  It doesn't have a sexual connotation anymore.  It's become a generic negative comment.  Words change their meanings over time in colloquial use.  Which is why I wrote "close to my age".

You know, just like "fag" isn't homophobic anymore, it is just a generic word for "dumb" or "lame".

[RichH]

I still boggle at the thought of anyone being offended by "Sucks" as en expression,

You know that it's short for "sucks dick" right?

Only to a certain generation, at this point. I doubt anyone under a certain age says "sucks" casually and intends to express similarity to the act of fellatio.  I've always thought that "sucks" is 100% interchangeable with "stinks" in both definition and level of offensiveness.

Exactly.  It doesn't have a sexual connotation anymore.  It's become a generic negative comment.  Words change their meanings over time in colloquial use.  Which is why I wrote "close to my age".

You know, just like "fag" isn't homophobic anymore, it is just a generic word for "dumb" or "lame".

Or "cigarette."

[David Harding]

I still boggle at the thought of anyone being offended by "Sucks" as en expression,

You know that it's short for "sucks dick" right?

Only to a certain generation, at this point. I doubt anyone under a certain age says "sucks" casually and intends to express similarity to the act of fellatio.  I've always thought that "sucks" is 100% interchangeable with "stinks" in both definition and level of offensiveness.

Exactly.  It doesn't have a sexual connotation anymore.  It's become a generic negative comment.  Words change their meanings over time in colloquial use.  Which is why I wrote "close to my age".

You know, just like "fag" isn't homophobic anymore, it is just a generic word for "dumb" or "lame".

As an old fart, I was less disturbed by the occasional "sucks" than by the invective from a few spectators in the row behind mine.  We suffered what felt like a constant stream of "Faggot!" "Homo!" and "Fucking douche bag!" directed at various BU players.  I had my wife and two daughters with me.  The younger daughter is Class of '06 and spent some time at Lynah as an undergrad, but it still bothers me.

[RichH]

I still boggle at the thought of anyone being offended by "Sucks" as en expression,

You know that it's short for "sucks dick" right?

Only to a certain generation, at this point. I doubt anyone under a certain age says "sucks" casually and intends to express similarity to the act of fellatio.  I've always thought that "sucks" is 100% interchangeable with "stinks" in both definition and level of offensiveness.

Exactly.  It doesn't have a sexual connotation anymore.  It's become a generic negative comment.  Words change their meanings over time in colloquial use.  Which is why I wrote "close to my age".

You know, just like "fag" isn't homophobic anymore, it is just a generic word for "dumb" or "lame".

As an old fart, I was less disturbed by the occasional "sucks" than by the invective from a few spectators in the row behind mine.  We suffered what felt like a constant stream of "Faggot!" "Homo!" and "Fucking douche bag!" directed at various BU players.  I had my wife and two daughters with me.  The younger daughter is Class of '06 and spent some time at Lynah as an undergrad, but it still bothers me.

It would bother me, and I don't have any kids (that I know of).  I have memories of being in the Big Red Pep Band playing at Union, and having several meathead Union fans saying things like "Red and White make pink, fags" and "you're gay" crap for a whole period. I always thought all of our fans were above that, but I know that's too much to expect.

[Ben]

I had never heard of "ducks" being short for "sucks dick" before I read this thread. Honestly. And I still won't normally make that association.

For me, the line is racism, sexism, and homophobia (or other forms of discrimination). Everything else should be fair game.

[jtwcornell91]

Additionally,  the "Baby" cheer has (or at least they've tried) been adapted.  I cannot say that I ever was able to watch Stephen Baby play, so I'm not sure if the comparison is accurate but in my time at Lynah the cheer was directed at both Tyler Mugford and Dan Nicholls.

Which is a bit silly, since "Hey Baby" makes sense as a play on the original title of the song, but "Hey Mugford" doesn't.  It's sort of like when the "¡Olé!" at the end of the bullfighting music went from "Auger!" (natural) to "McRae!-s" (a stretch) to "Abbott!-s" (just silly).

I think the point is that someone should make up a new cheer that makes sense with one of the current players' names.

[KeithK]

Additionally,  the "Baby" cheer has (or at least they've tried) been adapted.  I cannot say that I ever was able to watch Stephen Baby play, so I'm not sure if the comparison is accurate but in my time at Lynah the cheer was directed at both Tyler Mugford and Dan Nicholls.

Which is a bit silly, since "Hey Baby" makes sense as a play on the original title of the song, but "Hey Mugford" doesn't.  It's sort of like when the "¡Olé!" at the end of the bullfighting music went from "Auger!" (natural) to "McRae!-s" (a stretch) to "Abbott!-s" (just silly).

I think the point is that someone should make up a new cheer that makes sense with one of the current players' names.

I kind of disagree with you there John.  I think taking an existing cheer and adapting it to new players is cool.  Yes, the original "Hey Baby" thing was a play on the song title. "Hey Mugford" is a play on a play on the song title. Oh, it might be silly if thirty years from now we're singing "Hey Jones" and no one can even recall that there was a player named Baby back in the day. But this kind of evolving cheer can be fun.

It's great when you can come up with a new (original) cheer for each new group of players.  But that doesn't alwa happen.

[French Rage]

From a student who stood in A/B from 2008-2011 I'd have to agree.  There are still many creative cheers and most are hilarious.  Also, the remote control goalie cheers that I've heard do still mimic his motions.  From where I was standing people still yell Skate, Turn, Drink, Tab, Stop, and Bend Over.  Certainly the end refrain can get dragged out, especially if Cornell is going on the PK or there is a faceoff in our zone.  So I'd say the problem is more with discretion than with the actual cheers.  Additionally,  the "Baby" cheer has (or at least they've tried) been adapted.  I cannot say that I ever was able to watch Stephen Baby play, so I'm not sure if the comparison is accurate but in my time at Lynah the cheer was directed at both Tyler Mugford and Dan Nicholls.  Again, this was not every student so it may not have been audible on the other side of the ice.  The atmosphere may not be what it once was, but I think it says something about how important the Lynah Faithful still are that Ben Scrivens always gave us a lot of credit and thanks.

Having been there up to '04, when the "Bend over" part was starting to ramp up, I too recall that the usual remote control part was still there as long as the goalie was doing something (skating, drinking sweeping, etc).  The "bend over" part only really started when the goalie wasn't just standing there not doing too much, and frankly when you got a couple thousand people yelling "band over" in unison for a minute straight, it was pretty damn funny and awesome.  I can't say what it's like now, and if people jump to the bend over part too quickly; or if they don't get it in unison because kids today seem to want to speed every cheer immediately (there's my old guy rant, but seriously "DE-FENSE" at football and basketball works better if you can keep it up at constant rhythm for a couple minutes, not if it ends after 15 because people are in a speed yelling contest with each other).

[TimV]

Inspired largely by hockey chants, I have introduced our surgery residents to "The Paradox of the Surgical Suction:"

            "When the suction doesn't suck, it sucks.  And when the suction DOES suck, it doesn't."

                                                      ::nut::::doh::::bolt::

[George64]

She was offended more about the resounding cries of "SUCKS" and "Drop Dead" and all of that. It isn't about heads exploding or anything like that anyway. It is about not wanting to be the parents of a 4 year old who tells grandma "traffic sucks." It is about, for me anyway, discretion and courtesy, not the desire to have jackboots as part of the standard usher uniform.

To me that's not being offended by profanity but by selfishness, entitlement and rudeness.  Which is fine, but you're gonna have to move your family out of the Northeast to avoid it.

Personally I'm offended by the lack of creativity of the constant "sucks" and "drop dead" cheers.  Mothers don't let your children grow up to be boring.

Clue 23 down in today's NYT crossword:  "You suck!"    Answer: BOO