Cornell admissions

Started by CAS, March 21, 2022, 11:09:41 AM

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billhoward

Still unsure if the record number of applications is because Cornell is a totally excellent university, or because Cornell accepts the common application. How many Princeton-intenders decide on Cornell as a safer if not safe-admissions choice?

Do colleges have a way of sussing what is really the applicant's first choice? Is it the reachiest of the reach schools?

Or maybe the Ivies have done an ever-better job of raising their desirability? As in, mom and dad fear your life is ruined if you wind up at Bowdoin (9% accept rate) or Colgate (12%). So more apply Ivy, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford.

Trotsky

Always cracks me up to see Duke on that list.

George64

Headline in today's NYT - After a Year of Turmoil, Harvard's Applications Drop.

Cornell's 5139 admitted students represent 50 states plus Washington, D.C., Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Puerto Rico, as well as 93 countries. Based on citizenship, admitted students represent 107 countries outside the United States.

ajh258

Quote from: George64Headline in today's NYT - After a Year of Turmoil, Harvard's Applications Drop.

Cornell's 5139 admitted students represent 50 states plus Washington, D.C., Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Puerto Rico, as well as 93 countries. Based on citizenship, admitted students represent 107 countries outside the United States.

UG admissions office decided a few years ago to stop releasing application numbers and acceptance rates this time of year to discourage the focus on this statistic. Instead, they only release how many acceptances (and the final number will be a bit higher with waitlists being processed later). Actual numbers will eventually be posted on IRP's website here: Undergraduate admissions

chimpfood

Do we know what proportion of the class is from early decision? It seems like a lot of colleges are really leaning into that to improve their yield which then lowers regular acceptance rates, causes students to apply to more colleges regular decision, and makes schools admit even more students early.

David Harding

Quote from: chimpfoodDo we know what proportion of the class is from early decision? It seems like a lot of colleges are really leaning into that to improve their yield which then lowers regular acceptance rates, causes students to apply to more colleges regular decision, and makes schools admit even more students early.

According to the  Sun last November, Cornell is actually reducing the number of early decisions.  In the Class of 2027 1,670/4,994 were early.

chimpfood

Right, I forgot that they had announced that earlier, thanks!

George64

Quote from: chimpfoodDo we know what proportion of the class is from early decision? It seems like a lot of colleges are really leaning into that to improve their yield which then lowers regular acceptance rates, causes students to apply to more colleges regular decision, and makes schools admit even more students early.

I wonder how recent demonstrations at Columbia, Penn and Hahvad will impact their yields?  At Cornell, the egregiously offending student has pled guilty and the "exhilarated" faculty member took a leave of absence.  Students who originally sought an urban university, might have second thoughts.

billhoward

If Cornell is a safe backup alternative for a Columbia or Penn also-admitted candidate, Cornell might pick up some more students than it expects. But: I just don't know much fear an admit would have to have to say they'll take Cornell over Harvard.

This Cornell Daily Sun story says there were 1,607 early decision admits and they made up about 33% of the freshman class. https://cornellsun.com/2023/11/30/cornell-reduces-proportion-of-students-admitted-through-early-decision-track/

Cornell has said it will reduce the fraction of the 2028 class that is early-admit.

David Harding

Standardized tests will return to the Cornell admissions process according to The Ithaca Voice

chimpfood

I think that is definitely for the best.

George64

Quote from: billhowardIf Cornell is a safe backup alternative for a Columbia or Penn also-admitted candidate, Cornell might pick up some more students than it expects.

Given recent events, I wonder if Columbia's early decision admits will be able to get out of their commitments.

chimpfood

If people actually did what they were supposed to and withdrew their other applications after getting in I'm not sure anyone would care so much to take a gap year and lose a guaranteed spot in a top university.

George64

Interesting essay in the NY Times on college admissions.

George64

Quote from: George64
Quote from: billhowardIf Cornell is a safe backup alternative for a Columbia or Penn also-admitted candidate, Cornell might pick up some more students than it expects.

Given recent events, I wonder if Columbia's early decision admits will be able to get out of their commitments.

From my vantage point 85 miles away, Cornell seems relatively tranquil.  The most recent article in the NY Times that mentions Cornell is about "Panda diplomacy."  I hope it stays that way with us on ESPNU this weekend.