[OT] Best sport facilities (Ivy League)

[billhoward]

[Q][Is it just possible that the University learned from the Campus Store mistake in site preparation for future buildings?  It's also possible that they were concerned about the potential impact of blasting in close proximity to two old brick buildings.  [/q]

If Cornell gained wisdom from all its building mistakes, this would truly be the epicenter of intelligence of the Ivy League. (What was JFK's quip: The most intelligence in one place since Albert Einstein dined alone.)

The one mistake that gets me most was building North Campus with mostly doubles in the suites, not singles. Most people grow up with single not double rooms at home. I know you can bond sharing your double with a roommate but I think you can bond adequately with a suitemate who his his or her own single, too. I also thought, and on this I could be way wrong, that the common areas weren't getting that much use [early on, at least] because they felt too common and not enough like the living room for the floor.

Wasn't it lacrosse goalie Dan Mackesey's father who was sort of in charge of the design of North Campus? See, we are back on topic to sports (barely).

[ninian '72]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 If Cornell gained wisdom from all its building mistakes, this would truly be the epicenter of intelligence of the Ivy League. (What was JFK's quip: The most intelligence in one place since Albert Einstein dined alone.)[/q]

I think it was Thomas Jefferson, not Einstein, but we get the idea.:-)

[Scersk '97]

Boardman Hall for Olin Library:  great tragedy and the first of many.  Of course, "historically-sensitive renovation" wasn't in the cards at that time.  (Just be glad some bright Robert Moses-type didn't decided to drive a highway through campus in the 50s.  Nobody would've lifted a finger, most likely.)  Just think of the architectural monstrosities that have been visited on the campus:  Uris Hall, Olin Library, Clark Hall, Tjaden's renovation (5 floors in a 4 floor buidling--what were they thinking?), Ives Hall, Bradfield, etc.., etc., etc..  (Successes?  Lincoln renovation, Snee Hall, Rhodes (maybe--if it weren't so damn hot), Sage (another controversy).)  As the past rejected and current approved designs for the new architecture buildings show, Cornell has no intention of redressing past mistakes.

I have every confidence that the administration will keep approving ugly, ugly buildings well into mid-century.

[ugarte]

[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:
(Successes?  ... Sage (another controversy).)[/q]Controversy is right. I hate the new Sage. I lived in Sage as a soph - what a great building.  I was pissed when they made everyone move after the year to turn it into Akwe:kon (maybe the Language House - it's been a while).

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:
(Successes?  ... Sage (another controversy).)[/Q]
Controversy is right. I hate the new Sage. I lived in Sage as a soph - what a great building.  I was pissed when they made everyone move after the year to turn it into Akwe:kon (maybe the Language House - it's been a while).[/q]

I'm still amazed they got away with the Sage rennovation: prop up the walls, gut the inside, and put a completely different building inside the old shell.

Of course, in my day, Sage was actually the Language House for a year.  (I lived in Low Rise 9 before it became "everybody's bitch" as someone observed in the late 90s.)

[ninian '72]

Found it:

http://victorious.alumni.cornell.edu/newman/newman_main.html

Looks as if the footprint of Helen Newman, even including the new space, wouldn't accommodate a 50m pool, but, as far as I can tell, there is still some room to expand westward. Given the layout of the 25y pools, the building's already wide enough.   This part of the building is devoted solely to the natatorium, so it's not as if they're constrained by having to shoehorn the aquatic section around other facilities.  Very odd. ::rolleyes::