2004 - 2005 CU Schedule

[nyc94]

Do you remember if Union had already decided to jump to Div. 1 prior to Army's departure?

[dss28]

New sheep, too?

[Ben Doyle 03]

... i think you mean elephants  ::laugh:: ;-)  ::laugh::

[ugarte]

Adam Wodon wrote:

Vermont has a new AD, new president and new coach ... all since just this past summer.

Interesting.  Would it be unsporting to edit my post to say "months" instead of "years"? (And to take out the vestigial "either" from a previous draft.)

[Give My Regards]

Bill '94 wrote:

Do you remember if Union had already decided to jump to Div. 1 prior to Army's departure?

I don't believe so.  I recall hearing about some concern among the Union faculty/administration about moving the program to Div. I -- there were worries that the hockey program would "take over" and grow out of the school's control, like certain Div. I football and basketball programs.  (Some of those involved were clearly remembering Ned Harkness' tenure at Union in the mid-70's, which saw the Dutchmen make huge strides at the Div. II level but which ended badly, with a bunch of suspensions and his resignation)  Some concessions were made and Union started their Div. I tenure with a number of restrictions, among them no athletic scholarships (still the case) and a schedule of only 25 games.

[Chris 02]

I think I read somewhere that the Colgate home and home series will indeed be Feb 4-5.

[Rob NH]

Per Vermont in HE and the possibility of further expansion, URI, which recently built a new arena, has hinted at going DI but put the plan on hold due to some financial problems they were having, so I can only guesstimate that after Vermont don't expect to see HE expand until URI goes DI. They join HE, UConn, which is already a member of Womens Hockey East, makes the move over, and Hockey East is situated at 12, with all 6 New England state University's being represented (Maine, UNH, UVM, U-Mass, URI, UConn).

[BigD]

[Q]Keith K '93 Wrote:

 If Vermont were to jump by next year (I know the application is real, but who knows how soon it could be acted upon) [/Q]

Vermont/HE is a done deal, starting with the 2005 season. There has been some sentiment - most notably from coach Schafer - that Vermont should just hit the road starting this fall, but UVM wanted to stay another season because scheduling had already been done for the next season and they didn't want to mess that up (Gee, thanks so much!).

Someone also mentioned that HE would have to go to 12 teams right away, but there is no reason for that. One of the other conferences (CCHA?) only has ten teams and they have no problem with their playoffs - two teams don't make the playoffs. Pretty simple solution. Life sucks if you happen to be one of those two. Suck it up, plan better for next year.

[kingpin248]

The WCHA has ten teams, but all ten make the tournament (they were the first to use the dreaded Final Five format). The CCHA has twelve teams, and all twelve make that conference's postseason as well; they use a "Super Six" with two play-in games to determine the final two semifinalists. The only conference that does not send all its teams to the conference tournament is Hockey East, and they only eliminate the last-place finisher.

[nyc94]

[Q]BigD Wrote:
Someone also mentioned that HE would have to go to 12 teams right away, but there is no reason for that. One of the other conferences (CCHA?) only has ten teams and they have no problem with their playoffs - two teams don't make the playoffs. Pretty simple solution. Life sucks if you happen to be one of those two. Suck it up, plan better for next year. [/Q]

The CCHA has 12 teams and the WCHA has 10.  In both leagues all of the teams make the playoffs.  In fact, only in Hockey East are any teams excluded from the conference tournament (ninth place).

The CCHA teams play first round 2-of-3 series at campus sites and the six winning teams move on to the Super Six in Detroit.  The teams are reseeded and the top two seeds get byes.  The third seed plays the sixth and the fourth plays the fifth.  These games were Thursday night actually (Northern Michigan 2    - Michigan State 1; Notre Dame 5 - Ohio State 6    OT).  The winners play the two bye teams in the semifinals on Friday.  Again, the teams are reseeded and the lowest seed plays the top seed, two plays three.  The final and consolation game are on Saturday.

In the WCHA the top five teams host the bottom five in two-of-three series.  The winners advance to the championship which is in St. Paul, MN.  The teams are reseeded and the four and five seeds have a play-in game which was Thursday night (Alaska-Anchorage 4 - Colorado College 1).  Semifinals are Friday night.  Final and consolation game are on Saturday.  This is just how the ECAC conducted its tournament for a number of years although with two of the twelve left out.

Atlantic Hockey has nine teams and has a play in game between the eight and nine seeds.  CHA has six teams and has a tournament like the CCHA Super Six.

[KeithK]

[Q][Q]Keith K '93 Wrote:
If Vermont were to jump by next year (I know the application is real, but who knows how soon it could be acted upon) [/Q]
Vermont/HE is a done deal, starting with the 2005 season.[/Q]

Hey, it's not fair to quote in March my post from December!  Makes me look like I don't know what I'm talking about!  Which is often true, but back in Decemeber we didn't know yet.