Men’s soccer

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Swampy

Quote from: mountainredNo idea if this website is particularly accurate, but it has Cornell as the 4th team out.  It seems to assume the committee will go straight down the RPI list.  Cornell has two wins against teams they project in the field, Marist and UC Santa Barbara, but they are auto-bids with RPIs below Cornell.  Otherwise, the best result is the draw with Syracuse RPI 56).  

TL/DR:  ugarte is right, the season is over.

Shame. Perhaps we can hope this motivates the team next year. Look at this year's USMNT.

billhoward

Cornell soccer finishes 2021 at 11-3-2. But the last 30 days were a disappointing 3-2-1. Bounce of the ball can explain the outcome of a single game, but this was not the finish Cornell was capable of. Let's hope Cornell builds on the overall success of the season.
[b]Games Oct. 16-Nov. 13[/b]
L 1-0 @ Yale
W 1-0 @ Binghamton
W 4-0 Brown
L 2-1 @ Princeton
W 2-1 @ Dartmouth 2OT
T 1-1 Columbia 2 OT

ugarte

Quote from: billhowardCornell soccer finishes 2021 at 11-3-2. But the last 30 days were a disappointing 3-2-1. Bounce of the ball can explain the outcome of a single game, but this was not the finish Cornell was capable of. Let's hope Cornell builds on the overall success of the season.
[b]Games Oct. 16-Nov. 13[/b]
L 1-0 @ Yale
W 1-0 @ Binghamton
W 4-0 Brown
L 2-1 @ Princeton
W 2-1 @ Dartmouth 2OT
T 1-1 Columbia 2 OT
I think if you roll it back one more game (not checking) you get to the 5-4 win over Harvard where we took a 5-0 lead and nearly blew it.

upprdeck

thats soccer.. give up 1-0-0-2-1-1 and go 3-2-1. The margin is so small and the reward for the D when you get ahead is to make it even harder by bunkering. A modified scoring system might help a bit but many would think it would ruin the game to try to have teams try to score and not just play 10 in the box. Even something simple like on set pieces limit how many can start in the box. Lax doesnt allow the whole team to cross midfield why does soccer?  But then often the only plays that create chances are when a D comes up and the counter can work. if the D was kept at midfield those would go away as well.. But limiting players in the box might help and the D could still come up high.

dbilmes

Quote from: billhowardCornell soccer finishes 2021 at 11-3-2. But the last 30 days were a disappointing 3-2-1. Bounce of the ball can explain the outcome of a single game, but this was not the finish Cornell was capable of. Let's hope Cornell builds on the overall success of the season.
[b]Games Oct. 16-Nov. 13[/b]
L 1-0 @ Yale
W 1-0 @ Binghamton
W 4-0 Brown
L 2-1 @ Princeton
W 2-1 @ Dartmouth 2OT
T 1-1 Columbia 2 OT
The Yale game started our late-season slide. We controlled play, but their goalie made some great saves. We still had a shot at the Ivy title when we played Princeton, but we had a player receive a somewhat questionable red card early in that game and had to play a man short for most of the game. Even so, we were still in the game until Princeton went up 2-0. That game cost us a shot at the Ivy title. Columbia was a team we definitely should have defeated, but their goalie played the game of his life and one of our forwards singlehandedly failed to score on three excellent chances. Meanwhile, our second-leading scorer sat out the game for undisclosed reasons. The Columbia goalie also made some good saves. But even so, this was a game we should have won. If we couldn't beat one of the worst teams in the league on our home field we didn't deserve an NCAA berth. For what it's worth, we were unbeaten at home.

ugarte

We had a lot of games that should have gone differently.  We lost to Wake Forest in 2OT after outshooting them over the first 90 minutes when we got hit with TWO red cards in the last 10 minutes of regulation. We lost to both Yale and Princeton well against the run of play. On the last game of the season, needing a win to survive, we again failed to put home any of the chances we created and the ONE decent opportunity Columbia got for itself was perfectly struck.

I agree with what you said, @upprdeck, it's just a bummer.

Swampy

Quote from: upprdeckthats soccer.. give up 1-0-0-2-1-1 and go 3-2-1. The margin is so small and the reward for the D when you get ahead is to make it even harder by bunkering. A modified scoring system might help a bit but many would think it would ruin the game to try to have teams try to score and not just play 10 in the box. Even something simple like on set pieces limit how many can start in the box. Lax doesnt allow the whole team to cross midfield why does soccer?  But then often the only plays that create chances are when a D comes up and the counter can work. if the D was kept at midfield those would go away as well.. But limiting players in the box might help and the D could still come up high.

Lax does allow D players in the offensive zone; you just have to keep 4 players (including the GK) back in the defensive zone.

A mark of an excellent soccer team is the ability to break down the other team's defense even if they're parking the bus in front of goal. Last Friday's USMNT v Mexico game had two good examples. Pulisic's goal came from a halftime adjustment that isolated Weah on the right against his marker. Then, when Mexico had to adjust to a wider U.S. offense, space in the center opened up for McKennie's clincher.

None of this refutes what you said. The ability of a weaker team to combine parking the bus with quick counter attacks (ala Ted Lasso) does allow better teams to lose more than they should. It's sort of like basketball before the shot clock, when stalling afforded weaker teams the opportunity to beat stronger ones. Maybe bigger goals would help.

upprdeck

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdeckthats soccer.. give up 1-0-0-2-1-1 and go 3-2-1. The margin is so small and the reward for the D when you get ahead is to make it even harder by bunkering. A modified scoring system might help a bit but many would think it would ruin the game to try to have teams try to score and not just play 10 in the box. Even something simple like on set pieces limit how many can start in the box. Lax doesnt allow the whole team to cross midfield why does soccer?  But then often the only plays that create chances are when a D comes up and the counter can work. if the D was kept at midfield those would go away as well.. But limiting players in the box might help and the D could still come up high.

Lax does allow D players in the offensive zone; you just have to keep 4 players (including the GK) back in the defensive zone.

A mark of an excellent soccer team is the ability to break down the other team's defense even if they're parking the bus in front of goal. Last Friday's USMNT v Mexico game had two good examples. Pulisic's goal came from a halftime adjustment that isolated Weah on the right against his marker. Then, when Mexico had to adjust to a wider U.S. offense, space in the center opened up for McKennie's clincher.

None of this refutes what you said. The ability of a weaker team to combine parking the bus with quick counter attacks (ala Ted Lasso) does allow better teams to lose more than they should. It's sort of like basketball before the shot clock, when stalling afforded weaker teams the opportunity to beat stronger ones. Maybe bigger goals would help.

Yeah Bigger goals would be an interesting idea to try out.  Hockey has talked about it as well. How much bigger though.. You go look at games and would bigger goals me more shots. more wild shots. or more goals.

nshapiro

Quote from: upprdeck
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: upprdeckthats soccer.. give up 1-0-0-2-1-1 and go 3-2-1. The margin is so small and the reward for the D when you get ahead is to make it even harder by bunkering. A modified scoring system might help a bit but many would think it would ruin the game to try to have teams try to score and not just play 10 in the box. Even something simple like on set pieces limit how many can start in the box. Lax doesnt allow the whole team to cross midfield why does soccer?  But then often the only plays that create chances are when a D comes up and the counter can work. if the D was kept at midfield those would go away as well.. But limiting players in the box might help and the D could still come up high.

Lax does allow D players in the offensive zone; you just have to keep 4 players (including the GK) back in the defensive zone.

A mark of an excellent soccer team is the ability to break down the other team's defense even if they're parking the bus in front of goal. Last Friday's USMNT v Mexico game had two good examples. Pulisic's goal came from a halftime adjustment that isolated Weah on the right against his marker. Then, when Mexico had to adjust to a wider U.S. offense, space in the center opened up for McKennie's clincher.

None of this refutes what you said. The ability of a weaker team to combine parking the bus with quick counter attacks (ala Ted Lasso) does allow better teams to lose more than they should. It's sort of like basketball before the shot clock, when stalling afforded weaker teams the opportunity to beat stronger ones. Maybe bigger goals would help.

Yeah Bigger goals would be an interesting idea to try out.  Hockey has talked about it as well. How much bigger though.. You go look at games and would bigger goals me more shots. more wild shots. or more goals.

Yes, Yes, and Yes.  Don't do it.  They shouldn't have lowered the mound in baseball, and they never should have let palming become the crossover dribble in basketball.
When Section D was the place to be

Trotsky

Quote from: SwampyPulisic's goal came from a halftime adjustment that isolated Weah on the right against his marker

To be fair this also needed a spectacular pass and a damn fine header.

Swampy

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampyPulisic's goal came from a halftime adjustment that isolated Weah on the right against his marker

To be fair this also needed a spectacular pass and a damn fine header.

Exactly, which is why I went out of my way to mention Weah (pun or malapropism intended). Weah was also involved in McKennie's goal. Weah well deserved the coach's Man of the Match award.

BTW ("By the Weah" ), Weah scored a highlight reel goal tonight against Jamaica, but the USMNT was lucky to tie the Reggae Boyz. Other games are still in play, and the online scoreboard is having a hard time keeping up.

Ken711

2021 MEN'S SOCCER ALL-IVY AND MAJOR AWARDS
OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Kevin O'Toole, Princeton (Sr., M/F – Montclair, N.J.)
 
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Elian Haddock, Yale (Jr., GK – Whitefish Bay, Wisc.)
 
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Alessandro Arlotti, Harvard (Fr., F – Monaco)
 
COACH OF THE YEAR
Jim Barlow, Princeton*
 
FIRST TEAM ALL-IVY^
Lucas Gen, Princeton (Jr., D – Sacramento, California)
Jeremy Haddock, Yale (Jr., D – Whitefish Bay, Wisc.)
Wilson Eisner, Cornell (Fr., D – Menlo Park, Calif.)
Leo Burney, Penn (Fr., D – Seattle, Washington)
Elian Haddock, Yale (Jr., GK – Whitefish Bay, Wisc.)
Tyler Bagley, Cornell* (Fifth Year., M – San Clemente, Calif.)
Derek Waleffe, Brown (Sr., M – Madison, Wisc.)
Willem Ebbinge, Harvard (So., M – Queenstown, New Zealand)
Alessandro Arlotti, Harvard (Fr., F – Monaco)
Kevin O'Toole, Princeton* (Sr., M/F – Montclair, N.J.)
Emeka Eneli, Cornell (Sr., F – Dublin, Ohio)
Paolo Carroll, Yale (Jr., F – Sao Paulo, Brazil)
 
SECOND TEAM ALL-IVY^
Louis Weisdorf, Dartmouth (Fr., D – Copenhagen, Denmark)
Issa Mudashiru, Princeton (Fr., D – Bethesda, Md.)
Alex Charles, Princeton (Sr., D – Durham, N.C.)
Jack Roberts, Princeton (Sr., GK – Wellesley, Mass.)
Harry Fuller, Cornell (Fifth Year., M – London, England)
Jonah Kagen, Cornell (Sr., D – Savannah, Ga.)

Daniel Diaz Bonilla, Princeton (Jr., F – Vienna, Va.)
Ohad Yahalom, Dartmouth (Sr., M – Brookline, Mass.)
Ben Stitz, Penn (Sr., M – Baltimore, Md.)
Malik Pinto, Princeton (So., M – Durham, N.C.)
Isaac McGinnis, Penn (Sr., M – Brighton, N.Y.)
Martin Vician, Harvard (Jr., F/M – Bratislava, Slovakia)
Kahveh Zahiroleslam, Yale (So., F – Saratoga, Calif.)
Owen Schwartz, Brown (Jr., D – Mill Valley, Calif.)

profudge

Ivy champs  Princeton down 0 - 1  to St. Johns in NCAA 1st round game at halftime.

St Johns wins  1-0 and as a prize gets Oregon State (#1 ranked team) out in Oregon on Sunday afternoon.
- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's

mountainred

Nice to see a freshman make first team, but otherwise it looks like a rebuild job for Coach Smith.