ECAC Playoff Possibilities Stuff

[Scersk '97]

I expect there are a multitude of other ways for us to wind up in fourth with a first-round bye, but one way easily visible by looking at the standings and the games left to be played is:

1) We sweep
2) St Lawrence gets swept by Dartmouth and Harvard
3) Clarkson beats Dartmouth

The above would result in Cornell being in fourth as the only team with 25 points. We'd be a point ahead of Dartmouth, at least a point ahead of RPI (2 points ahead if they tied Colgate on Friday night, and 3 if they lost to Colgate) and 2 points ahead of St Lawrence.

Given that we lose most ties with those around us, due to the change to greatest number of wins in the tiebreaking procedures, what you detail is one of the few ways we end up in 4th.

We need to score three more points than SLU to end up ahead of them, and I view that as pretty unlikely scenario, mostly because the North Country is strong at home. But, hey, stranger things have happened, and it's good to be in it.

[upprdeck]

the bigger thing now is will winning the next 4 at home put us in a spot we wont need to get to the final 4 to make the NCAA. thats about all we can control at this point.

[Trotsky]

the bigger thing now is will winning the next 4 at home put us in a spot we wont need to get to the final 4 to make the NCAA. that's about all we can control at this point.

We may not get much higher in PWR even if we sweep.  A sweep next weekend doesn't guarantee a bye, but if we don't get a bye it would likely get us up to 5th, meaning our next two would be against Princeton or perhaps Colgate.  No help comes from those two, even if wins.

The other thing is if we get knocked out in the QF that's two losses, again, because of the likely 5th place finish, against the 4 instead of say Q.  That would be enough to knock us down to where the inevitable long shot conference winner somewhere would knock us out.

I don't see us getting to the NCAAs without making it to Lake Placid.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

the bigger thing now is will winning the next 4 at home put us in a spot we wont need to get to the final 4 to make the NCAA. that's about all we can control at this point.

We may not get much higher in PWR even if we sweep.  A sweep next weekend doesn't guarantee a bye, but if we don't get a bye it would likely get us up to 5th, meaning our next two would be against Princeton or perhaps Colgate.  No help comes from those two, even if wins.

The other thing is if we get knocked out in the QF that's two losses, again, because of the likely 5th place finish, against the 4 instead of say Q.  That would be enough to knock us down to where the inevitable long shot conference winner somewhere would knock us out.

I don't see us getting to the NCAAs without making it to Lake Placid.

A long shot conference winner isn't that much of a long shot.  Minnesota and Penn State are right below us, and either one can pull an upset in a 6 team tourney.

[upprdeck]

the question would be if we won the next 4 and then split 1-2 would we stay up around 12 or is that loss in the quarters too much to overcome?

is the ecac doing the semi losers game so even getting to the final 4 could mean 2 more losses?  but getting that far also could also mean we beat yale/quin

[Give My Regards]

is the ecac doing the semi losers game so even getting to the final 4 could mean 2 more losses?  but getting that far also could also mean we beat yale/quin

There is no consolation game, just the two semis and the championship.

[marty]

It sure looks like Brown got screwed twice this year at RPI.  Last night I don't fault the refs but if you look here at about the 1:50 mark there seems no way that this wasn't a goal.

HIghlights of Brown @ RPI

The regular season game featured the no camera view BS which allowed Brown to score in OT without winning the game.

Regular Season OT Brown @ RPI

[marty]

All the games this weekend were decided by one goal except Colgate's win which was by two thanks to an empty net. Impressive efforts by 9-12!

[upprdeck]

another example of ecac crews not using the replays correctly.  they have access to the tv replay so they should be using it.   and why have a high replay if its zoomed out so far you cant actually see the inside of the goal? cameras are so cheap these days i dont understand why they dont have more angle to look at.

[andyw2100]

another example of ecac crews not using the replays correctly.  they have access to the tv replay so they should be using it.   and why have a high replay if its zoomed out so far you cant actually see the inside of the goal? cameras are so cheap these days i dont understand why they dont have more angle to look at.

In addition to the points you make, the "from above" angle --DID-- show the puck in the net if one looked very closely.

[marty]

another example of ecac crews not using the replays correctly.  they have access to the tv replay so they should be using it.   and why have a high replay if its zoomed out so far you cant actually see the inside of the goal? cameras are so cheap these days i dont understand why they dont have more angle to look at.

In addition to the points you make, the "from above" angle --DID-- show the puck in the net if one looked very closely.

Maybe so, but there are other issues, too.  The crew at RPI must look at LCD monitors in a space behind the scorer's table.  There is no black hood to wear such as I have seen during the NCAA regionals.  I think the screen view is mediocre at best but that is just an opinion made from across the rink.  On top of the monitor issue there has to be a definitive view to overturn on ice rulings.  A final fly in the ointment is whether the puck actually made it completely over the goal line on Friday.

As to views, I think the norm is to only use the overhead shots during league play on campus locations. I don't know what they can see to review in Lake Placid but I assume that all camera angles are available in the regionals and Frozen Four.